> The idea that second graders have "open" sexual identities should be absolutely horrifying
So you find it horrifying if a young male openly identifies as a boy, and a young female openly identifies as a girl?
So you find it horrifying if a young male openly identifies as a boy, and a young female openly identifies as a girl?
Those terms in this context refer to prepubescent children.
If a girl likes to dress in what is traditionally recognised as boys clothes and play with trucks, that just kids being kids, there's nothing transgendered to be found there.
> If a girl likes to dress in what is traditionally recognised as boys clothes and play with trucks, that just kids being kids, there's nothing transgendered to be found there.
There is nothing *necessarily* transgendered about this. However, the grandparent stated there are openly transgendered kids in a second grade class. Are you saying it’s impossible for a child to know if they’re trans or not? I think we generally accept that some gay people knew they were gay at that age, why can’t the same be true for trans people?
Then, you know, hormones happened. It’s insane to think that kids can be trans because a huge part of what makes us men or women happens during puberty. I didn’t think much about my gender until puberty hit either.
As far as I can tell, nearly all kids are fairly certain about their gender identity by the time they start school. What makes you so certain that those of them who are transgender will have no idea?
It’s insane to think that kids can be cis gendered because a huge part of what makes us men or women happens during puberty.
So given both of those positions, exactly what point are you trying to make in relation to this thread besides trying to imply that prepubescent transgendered kids don't exist, when they clearly do by their own accounts as adults?
My best friend growing up was gay and some people recognized it before puberty, but he either couldn't or wasn't willing to recognize it until after high school. He had a breakdown while drunk on our band trip and said he was asexual. Do you think a little kid that realizes he's different from everyone else might just think he's trans instead of realizing he's just gay? That's kind of hard to sus out until you actually have sexual attraction to people.
I was never into either dolls or trucks as a kid, nor did I wear girls' clothes. I still experienced gender incongruence.