Comment by hewbert007 | Hacker News Reader

Comment by hewbert007 | Hacker News Reader

I've used Migadu for several years after switching from Google Apps. Technologically, I've been pretty satisfied. I have a lot of custom domains that I may want to use different users/mailboxes on and Migadu's pricing model makes that pretty easy.

In 2020, there was some turmoil with Migadu where they nearly (or completely) doubled their prices and didn't communicate it well. I was paying 45/yr then abruptly started paying 90/yr on the same/equivalent plan. They also took away a couple of features purported to be the cause behind some performance issues they had. During that time, their service was strained. Many users, me included, didn't realize there was an issue until no e-mail was received for days. Support just said "sorry" and that there was a post about it on their website. I think this situation soured a lot of users. You can read about it, including some of Migadu's response, if you search this site, reddit, and lowendtalk.

I agree with you that their speech codes in the TOS are sketchy, ambiguous, and trite. I'm not sending or receiving any e-mail like that, but I don't trust contemporary definitions for those topics. I've been considering another provider when my subscription is due for renewal because of the price change.

I left Migadu too after their pricing incident— it was terribly communicated imo and with a large increase like that you’d think they’d make darn sure you knew about it. I mean, how do you know they won’t do it again next year? Haven’t had a single issue with mxroute across multiple domains. Can’t recommend it strongly enough.

While I absolutely hate when companies hikes up prices, "how do you know they won’t do it again next year?" isn't really a good argument. Any company can and will rise their prices whenever they want.

You can not know if Migadu will increase their prices again, just like you can not know if Scaleway will raise again (they raised 3 times in less than two years); but you can also not known that MXroute will not rise theirs prices too.

You're taking my statement out of context. This was a large % increase and I didn't know about it until going back and seeing my bank statements. Raising prices a sensible amount is one thing, but how do you know they won't raise prices substantially without you knowing about it again?

And, mxroute has a lifetime plan.

That is not quite fair; even though we did raise prices, we informed twice in an announcement to all users months before it happened giving opportunity to act upon it. We have also grandfathered old pricing for an additional year to all users that asked for it.

Nevertheless, glad you found MXRoute fits your needs and budget!

I don’t think you acted in bad faith but I don’t think your announcement, whatever it was, got to everyone. I mean, you have multiple people telling you they didn’t know about the large % increase, right?

I think, unless you acknowledge the issue, it's hard to have a lot of confidence it won't happen again. And that's not to mention all the licensing language people mentioned elsewhere. It just seems like using your service would require me to read all the legalese and revisit your website at some frequency to make sure nothing's changed.

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