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It's interesting to see where the DEI stuff has gotten to.

Historically under the law, discrimination based on gender was prohibited. There was no provision for allowed discrimination based on gender (ie, prohibiting men from becoming teachers or nurses).

Now we are being told that it is OK to discriminate against men and the law only protects "marginalized" groups.

In elder care (especially with heavier elderly) a male nurse can be as good as a female nurse with lots of stuff including getting patients into and out of beds etc. This idea that it's morally superior to discriminate against men in these cases feels weird. Similarly in schools, many boys might benefit from some good male role models in these systems.

Anyways, interesting to see how things change from my "civil rights" days - it's civil rights 2.0?

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> in schools, many boys might benefit from some good male role models in these systems

Very much so, the female domination of the educational system is a disaster not in the making but one we're reaping the bitter fruits from. It is not only boys who would benefit from having good male role models, this is just as much true for girls. Unfortunately education is one of those fields where men have been pushed out and are made to feel unwelcome by women. The few men who make it all the way to the classroom often end up hen-pecked and unable to become the male role models needed.

The primary school in my village in Sweden (~450 pupils) has not had a single male teacher for more than a decade now, they pushed the last - very popular - one out with the pretence of him not having 'the correct papers'. Never mind that he single-handedly managed to organise several popular school-wide activities every year, never mind that those activities created a bond among pupils, teachers and parents, never mind that those activities are no longer organised and that tensions at the school have been rising ever since. He was a man in a female-dominated workplace who had to go, who was pushed out by the female head of school.

Come August my then 11yo daughter will no longer go to this school, instead opting for another school in a place much further away which has a more balanced approach.

Interesting. A teacher I had a lot of respect for in high school was a male teacher (black as well if that matters). He was BY FAR the most strict of any teachers in the school. He stood at his door and locked it when the bell rang, you had to sit in the hall if you were late for his entire period. His standards were super high.

Interestingly, he ALSO organized large group events (including community / school events). I always thought he was strict because when you deal with huge groups of kids - you kind of need to be to keep things going in a good direction. He was loved.

He did get run out of the school though because he was supposedly "racist". Not worth getting into, but I had to laugh out loud as an alumni. He put on cultural events in the school cafeteria during lunch. I'm sure the twitter army that came for him had no clue about his actual background or teaching. He landed on his feet (thankfully)!

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