- Common sense
- Life experience
- Intelligence
- Ability to listen to others
- Curiosity
- Empathy
- Common sense
- Life experience
- Intelligence
- Ability to listen to others
- Curiosity
- Empathy
If we have minimum age for participating in politics, there should be a maximum age. Set it at like 70% of life expectancy.
Alternatovely, remove minimum age - I would rather have a 16 year old in parliament than a 90 year old, maybe some problems with schools will actually get addressed.
Maybe true, not sure, but outcomes surely do not correlate with age.
"Scientists can publish their best work at any age"
So if older people take longer to come up with sensible solution, it could be too late
Kennedy was 46 years old during Cuban missile crisis, he has shown restraint when many generals, significanlty older than him, advocated use of force and likely would cause a global nuclear war.
Today young people overwhelmingly show the will to deal with climate change, and older generation overwhelmingly wants to continue to ignore it.
It's not like russia is a nuclear armed threat actively leading a war that everyone is afraid to intervene in right now...
The rest of your comment here is just nonsensical name calling and assuming anyone older is automatically homophobic and racist. This kind of childish behaviour is why there are minimum ages for offices.
I don’t actually know the extent to which each of those things were or weren’t considered common sense in any given year in any given location, so it may be correct or false or even every combination of both, but in any case it is a very different claim.
(Did you wake up on the wrong side today :-))
You're basically saying you mostly care about problems you have experienced, while complaining that other generations don't understand you (without any basis, I might add). That's pretty self-centered.
I would support a maximum voting age, give the reins over to the next generation and let it go already.
> the generation that we call the Baby Boomers have been in control of their respective societies for over forty years
So they grabbed control when they were in their 20s and didn't let go? That's a bit unlikely, isn't it? And most of the people in that generation had no power whatsoever.
> You can see the age
If you define a group by its age, of course you bloody can see the age. Do you add sentences in the hope that a random true one strengthens other ramblings?
> and the apathy
Strange. In the last years, apathy under adolescents and young adults seems to be getting out of control. Or are you calling them boomers too?
If you deny that people with actual experience of the subject matter are better placed to resolve the issue, I am not sure our comprehention of the world is compatiable.
> complaining that other generations don't understand you
Have you seen Marz Zukerberg's senate hearing? Do tou think Senate has succesfully held him to account for the shenanigans Facebook was pulling? Do you dispute that if everyone in that chamber was a 40-year old proffeshonal who could remmber studying IT, and some of them w Veing recent IT proffeshionals, they would be able to do a better job?
Do you feel that in that hearing anybody at all of the older senators, say over 75, has demonstrated how their wealth of life experience has enabled them to do a better job?
Or a test: do you know where Canada is located? The largest country (area wise) on each continent? Can multiply two double digit numbers? And some other basic things -- one would need to pass such a test to get to vote.
Would reduce the likelihood that the voters change their country to a dictatorship
As if the people who actually vote are going to disenfranchise themselves. Also, your 0.7 of life expectancy is about 55-57 in the US and UK. Is that really where you think people are probably incapable of making decisions for themselves?
Seems silly.
You don't hold public office to make decisions for yourself, you are making decisions for everyone else.
Well we can argue where exactly the boundary lies, but why do you think most scams and fraudulent schemes target older peopl? They are also considered vulnerable cusotmers by UK competitions and market authority.
(1) just following the retirement money
(2) student loans… crypto… mlm… home loans… plenty of scams target people at other stages in their lives. (I won’t even mention religions.)
I am talking about criminal fraud, the kind that send you to jail. Either you are being disengineous and are equating crime with questionable investment strategies.
Or you believe that the US government is complicit in defrauding an entire generation? I mean the latter could be a good argument for cancelling student debt.
Does that tell us more about intelligence or the testing?
"Ability to listen to others" and especially "Empathy" are the very opposite attributes of people "running all major world powers right now"
Even the worst politicians, those that I personally hate with vitriol, those whom I doubt even have a rich inner mental world, absolutely do demonstrate listening to the person in front of them. It may not be real empathy, just affectation, but the effect of the affect is the same on the support base they need in order to get elected, or in some cases even chosen as a candidate.
I was pointing to the fact the paper is not measuring those traits, and they are certainly more important than mental speed. And even that, the paper says until 60 only decreases as older persons take more time to more carefully consider their decisions.
OP seemed to be worried that as they are older, the paper would imply their mental ability was somewhat diminished or less capable, and I pointed to other traits very important, the paper does not analyze.
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/minds-business/the...
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> Common sense
We're having a frigging climate crisis and still not acting on it. So - nope.
> Life experience
From different era where world was a bit different, slower paced and pretty much black and white with two genders, fossil fuels and without those pesky women, gays and other minorities raising their voices.
> Ability to listen to others
This would presuppose empathy.
> Curiosity
As on having open mind to new ways of doing things? Nope.
> Empathy
Straight out nope again. Much, if not most of world's problems are exactly because of the lack of empathy for our fellow man and disregard for the future i.e. their own children. Nope, empathy is nowhere to be seen.
Geriatrics in power seem to make very slow and very wrong choices.
Consult the calendar. When Joe Biden was young, the Sixties were in full swing and the voices you mention were already pretty loud. They didn't have overwhelming results yet, but the path towards them was already being very visibly trod.
What you describe was an even earlier world - and we do not have that many centenarians in positions of power. Queen Elizabeth is pretty much the only important head of state to be still surviving from that period.
Even then, the Quiet Generation built things; roads, schools, libraries, arenas and institutions that are being destroyed by under-funding and neglect.
> We're having a frigging > climate crisis and still > not acting on it. So -nope.
Last time I was at a tech conference (fortunately years ago) the bulk of the audience and speakers were people in their 30s or younger and a lot of them had traveled long distances to get there. A few were frequent conference speakers traveling several times per year, all in very climate-unfriendly airplanes.
I see a lot of people under 30 who get expensive ICE cars as they progress in their careers, not to mention that if they have a good career in terms of revenue they’re most likely involved in something that negatively affects climate. I could go on.
> From different era where > world was a bit different, slower paced and pretty much black and white with two genders, fossil fuels and without those pesky women, gays and other minorities raising their voices.
Civil rights are surely not an invention of the current young generation. I’d argue that if we have a more vocal civil rights/social justice movement now it is thanks to all the people who are now over 70 or even dead and who were fighting that fight in more conservative times. This is also not something that’s uniformly distributed in the world or even in “civilized” places (sadly, I’d add), as I keep stumbling upon very young (decades younger than me) bigots far more frequently than I’d like (ok, to be honest, I’d like that frequency to be 0).
> This would presuppose empathy.
If all the young people you interact with are emphatic you’ve no idea how lucky you are. Suffice to say that school continues to be hell to a lot of weird kids right this very moment, that ain’t a problem that went away. That’s because most people are bigoted regardless of their age. If anything, I’ve seen a-holes become a bit less of that as they grow older.
> Geriatrics in power seem to make very slow and very wrong choices
I’ll take the role of unsolicited editor to your comment and suggest that you just say “People in power seem to make very slow and very wrong choices”, that would make it accurate.