‘What a brutal business’: pop stars on life after the spotlight moves on
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It's part of the overall appeal, and that says something about human nature. We like to see the reckless brilliant star careening into the stratosphere, knowing full well that it is unsustainable. It's the human embodiment of life and overabundant success.
You often see this in a different manner with pro athletes, sadly.
The people most drawn to lotteries (and perhaps those drawn to the limelight too) are those that have the worst life and money skills. I think we all know people who live the feast or famine lifestyle of cruises and new TVs when the tax refund comes followed by 11 months of scraping by and complaining about their money situation.
From what I see, is that 70% spend their money after 5 years, but don't just become 'homeless' / destitute. This seems some kind of overblown myth.
The other study I found:
"Statistically, 1% of lottery winners in the Florida study went bankrupt annually (Source: https://www.creditdonkey.com/lottery-winner-statistics.html)"
You can say the same thing, although toned down a bit, about the college loan situation in the United States.
Colleges certainly do. There is no market economy in giving out loans but yet there are no price and quality controls on the receiving end of the money.
The lifestyle certainly isn't lavish in the sense that pop star lifestyle is, but taking out many tens of thousands of dollars in an attempt to become a librarian (one friend of mine did just that) is just stupid, financially speaking. Short of having family bail you out or marrying a high income earner, you're a prisoner to loans that's cannot be discharged via bankruptcy.
The problem is, society needs librarians and other "non-STEM" science - we're right now, for example in Germany [1], seeing with the cluelessness of politicians on Russia how utterly ignorant it was to cut funding for Eastern European studies back in 2005. And mind ya that's Europe where "student loans" aren't really a thing because we don't have absurd tuitions because the government pays for universities.
We haven't found a way to incentivize people to take up these studies, and we absolutely need to, otherwise we are going to lose so much knowledge over the next decades. My s/o for example has a brilliant master's degree in art history, but funding for positions that match her experience is scarce to say the least, and covid didn't exactly help. She's currently working for the government to help fight the pandemic, but it's a sad waste of potential how many people like her are simply left behind.
[1] https://www.pnn.de/wissenschaft/slawisten-kaempfen-fuer-ihre...
I am saying that librarian studies is, economically speaking, a luxury good when a librarians pay doesn't cover the interest on the loans it took to get the job- mind you that in the US, most librarian jobs require a master's degree, so you could easily be paying for 7 years of higher education to get it, and that's assuming that there are even any jobs available that require the degree in the first place.
In the 1980s, the State of Alabama was sued by prisoners who claimed their prison cells constituted cruel and unusual punishment. One of the defenses the state used was that the student dorms at Auburn University were not only more bare than the prison cells, and lacking in basic amenities like air condition that the prisoners were demanding, the students had to pay to live there (the state won). Apartment complexes in Auburn and other college towns now are in wars with each other over the most attractive amenity packages for their residents. Because so many students take the largest loan amounts offered instead of just what is needed, a huge industry has popped up to convert that loan money into the type of experiences that appeal to those in their teens and early 20s. The lifestyle experience of the contemporary university student is nothing like those of the era pre-easy money loans (that is, when the government start guaranteeing and later issuing loans directly).
I live in Boulder, and it's really all over the place.
There a lot of kids just scraping by.
But there are also a lot of kids who don't work, but rent >$2k a month apartments and drive Audis and BMWs.
Obviously their parents are funding them, but I'm pretty sure they take out a lot of loans, too.
That's some startup hustle!
Little grows, much less, survives, at altitude.
The physical and spiritual maintenance routines of anyone in 'the biz' is of great interest.
"Limelight" you know: https://youtu.be/ZiRuj2_czzw
But check out "Headlong Flight":
"Some days were dark \ I wish that I could live it all again \ Some nights were bright \ I wish that I could live it all again!"
#RIPNeilPeart
Which is the reason middle aged+ pop stars are rare: boundless confidence in your own greatness cannot coexist with an actual human being's history.
We make mistakes. We fuck up relationships. We fuck up our bodies. We fuck up job opportunities.
Nobody is perfect. Yet that's what the market has always wanted to buy, so that's what the industry has manufactured and sold.
[1] https://open.spotify.com/episode/2TRBNGScfO2K3RWRIYJedJ?si=R...
Things get really interesting when she talks about how her mom stole all her money and now she’s basically starting over (in the original link).
It's only worth beating your head against that wall if going back is simply too horrifying to contemplate, like when people successfully leave behind criminal careers. Even then they sometimes build on prior experience, like the guys that stopped being thieves and made a TV show about security and would break into homes and businesses on camera.
Edited because: Autocorrupt struck again.
I'm more saddened though by the artists that didn't become huge pop stars but perhaps should have.
My examples: The Embarrassment, The Doleful Lions, The Muffs, Paul Brill, Grandaddy, The Wrens, ...
I could go on and I'm sure others have their own personal favorites.
Oh, did The Pixies ever make it? Or did they just inspire the pop stars of the 90's as they faded away?*
It doesn't adequately pay my bills. I'm still trying to sort that piece out which is complicated because wherever you go, there you are. So while people can do studies showing that in the aggregate, X trait is associated with Y outcome, I can't readily take my own self or life apart in that manner to sort cause and effect.
Like you, I write because I must. I don't choose to write. It just happens. I can choose whether or not to put pen to paper or finger to keyboard, but I can't choose not to create the stuff that I write.
If I'm stuck somewhere with no writing utensils, I write anyway, constructing stories and lyrics and essays and explanations in my head, storing it up as best I can for when I can write it all down. It isn't even mostly in words. Most of my thoughts are visual-spatial, and only get translated into words when I have writing utensils.
I make pictures, too, and songs, and software. Similarly, I don't decide to do it or choose to do it; it just happens all the time, like it or not. If I don't have any tools to work with, that doesn't make it stop. It just makes it inconvenient, and it means that a large amount of what I create is likely to be lost before I can get it transcribed. I don't lose it all. The especially memorable bits stick, which means that doing without tools for transcription has benefits. It filters out the less memorable stuff.
My openness score is in something like 97th percentile, so somewhere around 97 out of every 100 randomly-chosen people score lower. Most people are not in my situation. More generally, highly-creative people are in the minority. But I think you can recognize them if you look. They're the ones who are always compulsively creating stuff.
The other topic of the blog post is a claim that, not only is art not optional for artists, it's not optional for the human species, either.
I don't know why art is necessary for us, but if it wasn't, then we wouldn't find it everywhere we find modern humans for all of our existence. Art seems to be older than fire, and every culture has it (so far as I know). I don't know what we need it for, and I'm not sure anyone else does, either, but apparently we need it for something.
I'm amused by the use of the word “loved” here. It looks a lot more like adulation than anything else.
It's often not psychologically healthy to have millions of strangers validating your persona, which is only part of any human being.
Ultimately, if the goal of an artist is to feel great in the eyes of others, is it the sudden lack of purpose? Shouldn't an artist that believes in their own art, be happy in the good and bad times, since their artistic output is all they need to find purpose?
A real artist creates art whether its recognized or not, for the love of creating it.
So in practice it means you get a lot of respect and money, and suddenly you don't.
It would be not unlike going from FAANG veep or CEO to sudden unemployment. With no one calling. Except that you're less likely to have a financial cushion.
Not sure why he would write about nasa/jpl though.
Not so sure about this one. Tons of respect for Dave having this amount of longevity though.