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> Now, 10 years later they are holding my online persona hostage in a shameless cash grab to try and make Workspaces more profitable.

I'm in the same boat, but since ~2006 when I started my first company (dont recall exactly when I set up my google apps account though). I have to chose whether to move my account (which thanks to sign in with google is attached to more places than I can even remember), or pony up $6/mo/user with 20 friends and family having email accounts under my domain.

I have not yet decided what to do. But if I leave Google. I will leave for life, and that includes multiple other Workplace accounts that I already DO pay for. I'm sure losing a few thousand a year doesn't matter to them, but mail-in-a-box seems like a decent fit for my limited email I actually use on those older accounts.

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I know it’s not the same thing but Cloudflare just released a new product for email that’s free. It just forwards any email from your domain in cloudflare. I already use cloudflare and instead of paying google apps for it, I just forward * to my gmail account. Thought it may be of some use if you’re not actively responding from them.

Exactly. If I have to leave I will leave forever as well. To the point of buying a mac / iphone, and completely leaving the google ecosystem. That's how much this pisses me off.

Its now about the principle rather than how much it actually costs.

I run an online club with about 20-something email addresses. We're almost certainly moving to Migadu (which doesn't charge per account and seems reputable, according to lots of folks here) and then downgrading our account to the "Google Workspace Essentials" so our Google Docs don't go anywhere.

I moved to Migadu from Google Apps a month ago. The only minor issue is slightly worse spam filter but everything else works well and the ability to use Sieve scripts is really nice.

My baby, PretzelBox.cc, is no Google but it does give you an inbox for your domain and a half decent looking blog (https://pretzelbox.cc/blog/) and a way to store and share files.

/shameless_plug

The page you link doesn't exactly give a good impression. The logo in the top left links to bulma.io, The templates list links to one called "Very Cool", but there's no way to get back to the original template (except of course the back button). There's no link back to pretzelbox.cc. The landing page there is much better, but then one of the testimonials is for a service called Moogle. The only connection between Moogle and PretzelBox seems to be your Twitter account.

The /blog/ related issues you pointed are now fixed. Thank you!

You're right about Moogle. While I was working on building PretzelBox, I had launched just the blogging piece - i.e. post to your blog from Gmal - as a standalone service on Moogle.cc.

Appreciate you taking the time to give feedback.

> which thanks to sign in with google is attached to more places than I can even remember

I used to think refusing that option and creating new accounts was just me being obtuse, but I don't regret it now (and with a password manager it's mostly not a major drag).

Will all those people lose their email when something happens to you?

They shouldn't - I usually keep enough money in my corporate bank account that will keep the handful of expenses running for years.

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