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I think, you don't get the full grasp of "early, friendly internet". Very few people do today. In my bubble - programming, for example, young people can't even imagine that there were times when you could focus on _things_ instead of writing layers of security code around them.

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It makes me sad to think of all those simple little services we used to run on *NIX machines, like `finger` and `whois`. You'd never want to disclose that information now, but at the time it was quite nice to be able to see if a friend or colleague was around with a simple network query.

I remember when I could connect to nearly any server on the internet on port 25 and manually type the commands to send an email.

You can still submit mail to virtually any mail server using telnet. I just tried it on Gmail for curiosity, and it did work!

I dunno. Everyone fairly-publicly shares their entire friend network and what they had for lunch, now, usually under their real name.

It’s like how when I was a kid, nobody in our neighborhood locked their doors at night. There was no need. Until there was.

I think you make it sound as if that was good, but it was straight naive or irresponsible

It was a different time

Sure, in today’s world.

That’s like saying it would be naive and irresponsible for me to go outside without a life preserver today despite an unforeseen catastrophic global flood drowning the lands 10 years from now. It was a different world, with different expectations and frameworks.

The GP is saying "I miss the days where I could easily exploit people" and the response was "I miss the days where we respected each other enough to not exploit each other". It wasn't naive or irresponsible, but reflective of a time with more trust, cooperation, and good intentions.

Reminds me of a few years ago, when I accidentally exposed my Domoticz install to the internet without authentication. I've had missed something in my Nginx config with X-Forwarded-For headers. After about a week or something apparently a foreign visitor came by my install and decided to have some good fun. Turning my lights on/off at random times. It took me about 3 days to realize what have happened, but in the mean time he didn't just destroy my install and only mess with me. Which was really sweet, because nuking the system would be far easier than opening the webpage every night.

That was a good and fun security lesson though and now I always check outside security with a mobile hotspot.

"There are villages on the countryside that are safe and friendly, everyone knows each other, people don't even lock their door."

- "Man, those idiots are naive and irresponsible."

1 I didnt call any1 "idiot"

2 it s not like other people cant go to those places, thus it is kinda irresponsible

That's like saying it's naive and irresponsible to gooutside without locking your front door when you live in a tiny remote village with 40 other people you've known for your whole life.

Not really, in your example theres no way any1 appears and even if he does, then your friends protect ur stuff

Meanwhile internet aint remote village

Point is it used to be

Do you know of any tiny remote internet villages left? There has to be a few

https://tildeverse.org/

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