Plastic bottle instead of a gas tank: UAV Orlan 10 Russian tech
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According to wiki, these are the specs;
General characteristics
Capacity: 6 kg (13 lb) payload
Max takeoff weight: 15 kg (33 lb)
Launch method: a folding catapult platform
Landing method: parachute recovery
Max. wind speed at launch: 10 m/s
Operational temperature range: −30 to +40 °C
Avionics Imaging: Canon EOS 750D digital SLR camera[40][41]
Powerplant: 1 × Saito FA-62B single cylinder four stroke gasoline piston engine, 0.75 kW (1 hp)
Performance Maximum speed: 150 km/h (93 mph, 81 kn)
Combat range: 140 km (87 mi, 76 nmi)
Ferry range: 600 km (370 mi, 320 nmi)
Endurance: 16 hours
Service ceiling: 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
if the UAV is able to have such specs despite using a plastic bottle for fuel tank, then i think its doing something right.Well that’s the point, does it? Without knowing the failure rate and operational effectiveness it’s impossible to say. Maybe 50% of missions fail due to fuel line problems and the camera doesn’t work on cold days.
the components are off the shelf civilian crap ,dont look milspec at all
this looks like typical russian grift project
However, I would be worried about the dependencies taken on.
Knowing this, the west will make the export of plastic bottles (and DSLR cameras) to Russia illegal. If they don’t have domestic industry to fall back on, they have a problem. If they _do_ have such industry, why don’t they use it? I doubt it’s already running at full speed. Automation can easily crank out this kind of stuff by the thousands each month.
Edit: I guess Canon also could be coerced into releasing firmware that, if that control hasn’t been turned in a few hours/days of operation, and, assuming this camera has it, GPS tells it’s airborne near Russia, runs some code that puts the camera on fire or just randomly disables the video output stream.
This drone would never be useful in the west.
Gotta have plenty of military hardware for that.
In the end, I expect the producer of the drone would be the only one who can shed light on the situation.
edited for typo
Surely Russia has the means to make "real" UAVs? I mean, the migs are very much real and capable planes, in many ways better than their US counterparts (especially so with how the F-35 has turned out).
Edit: I would sincerely like to know why this is getting downvoted
[edit] It's pretty embarrassing, and I think tells a bigger story.
I strongly suspect that part of the reason the Ukraine invasion was so bungled is that the military procurement folks were getting cheap knock-off equipment and pocketing the difference. Leadership was told stories of cutting-edge tech while reality on the ground was very different. I suspect the whole army looks either like this - mixed in with whatever was left over after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
I do agree that the PJSC United Aircraft Corporation [2] (a merger of Ilyushin, Irkut, Mikoyan, Sukhoi, Tupolev and Yakovlev design bureaus) has some decent, modern designs but I'd argue a lot of that is carry-over from the cold war too. Their F-35 competitor (Su-35S/Su-27M) are improved variants of the Su-27 which debuted in 1977. [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Aircraft_Corporation
The last truly new Russian jets ( MiG or Sukhoi, doesn't matter) to enter mass production are the Su-27 and MiG-29 from the 1980s. Everything since has been new versions of those designs, or failures ( Su-57). They aren't bad planes, and might have some specific advantages (e.g. IIRC a MiG-29 is a better interceptor than an F-16), but they're old. They're certainly cheaper, easier to maintain and with good training and systems can do plenty of damage in good circumstances and with some luck, but saying they're "in many ways better than their US counterparts" is a stretch.
Not really, it might be more manoeuvrable than the F-16 (questionable in itself) but as an effective weapon system the F16 wins in every way.
This isn't me been nationalist, I'm British and we don't operate the F-16 - its simply that the F-16 in service now isn't the F-16 from the 70's where the Mig-29's in service now largely are and not even well maintained 70's.
The Block 50/52 F-16's are essentially a significant technological leap over any Mig-29 in service.
I mean the Russian Airfoce is using hiking GPS to navigate their fighters - I'd almost feel sad for them if they weren't butchering innocent civilians with their obsolete crap.
Missiles, Radar, Datalinks and Avionics are what matters on the F16 with stealth added on the F22/F35.
If the F16 can see the Mig29 first (either via it's on-board radar or a datalink to a loitering AWACS) and has weapons that can reach further then the Mig29 is at a catastrophic disadvantage before the fight is even joined properly.
The reports I've seen where F-16's have gone against Mig-29's all seem to reach the same conclusion, Mig-29 is more manoeuvrable below 200kn where F-16 is more at +200kn.
Thing is actual gun range dogfights are rare outside of exercises and if you are doing 200kn in one then you are at a severe disadvantage against an opponent who isn't since preservation of energy is the key criteria in a gun fight.
All that said though if an F-16 finds itself in that kind of a fight with a Mig-29 outside of an exercise then something has gone very wrong.
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/f-16-vs-mig-29-when-the-migh... a good read.
The engine seems to be a Saito FG-61TS. Fuel tank, not much better.
Now, the communication-electronics would be interesting.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002956968928.html?spm=a2...
It looks a bit more professional, maybe not like a Wescam but anyway: https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/wescam-mx-series
Some of my IR imaging equipment is made by them. Elbit is the other leader in that industry.
Is there an onboard computer that can send photos back to the operator? Or does the drone have to fly back and the operator collect the memory card.
There are aftermarket reversing cameras that are wireless that I imagine could be repurposed for the transmission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fen3nwtllEU , although the quality would be lower that using a Canon DSLR doesn't make sense.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орлан-10
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЕСУ_ТЗ
Yes, it can. I think the system is not nearly as sophisticated as whatever NATO uses for coordination of the military, but I assume it sort-of works, and judging by the cost of these you can allow yourself to lose a few of them.
The last article mentions the ЕС1866 computer and Russian domestic chips.
Is this whole system based on ELBRUS-computers?
https://rostec.ru/en/news/rostec-presented-a-heavy-duty-lapt...
Rostec Presents Ultra-High Strength Laptop For Extreme Conditions
The Ruselectronics holding company, a member of the Rostec State Corporation, demonstrated a production sample of the Russian-made protected laptop for use in extreme conditions at the Innoprom-2018 international industrial fair. The hardware core of the PC is based on the Russian-made Elbrus 1C+ microchip.
https://www.crackedthecode.co/how-to-use-your-dslr-as-a-webc...
https://www.heandshephoto.com/canon-eos-rebel-xsi-450d-guide...
As for the drone in the video, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Raspberry Pi with a 4G modem, or some other remote networking option connected to it, somewhere inside it (or something of a similar hacky nature).
Reportedly, it can also be equipped with Israeli made payloads: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bpla/orlan10.html
I’ll never forget my little borrowed Skoda’s windshield wipers getting stuck together because I had the gall to set them to max people’s speed.
Slava Ukraini.