Microsoft explains why you can't move Windows 11 Taskbar
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Unless I am understanding something really, really wrong... all those apps are windowed, and can and do resize all the time, taskbar or not
Now I wonder how big of a mess the Windows shell codebase is...
Check the GitHub repos for WinUI 3.0, WindowsAppSdk, CsWinRT, C++/WinRT, specially the issues and commit rates per week.
It is as if everyone left to Azure, but there are a few left still trying to make the UWP reboot happen.
Most of the community that really bought into it, moved back into plain Win33/.NET, fed up with the WinRT reboots since Windows 8.
Regardless of the possible mess in the Windows Shell, there is a bigger one in management.
I have literally been running Windows 11 with the taskbars on the side for 6 months
It's the only explanation. The taskbar has been movable since Windows fucking 95. And I've never seen any apps on Windows have any issues with moving it around.
Furthermore, I suspect grandparent is either similarly confused or using registry hacks.
"It's the only explanation. The taskbar has been movable since Windows fucking 95. And I've never seen any apps on Windows have any issues with moving it around."
Until they decided to take it away in Windows 11.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/tyflzp/microsoft...
..but provided no figures (relative to other feature requests, for example) with which to back up this statement.
They may, for example, be heavy Excel users, with macros, etc. In why case now other OS is even an option.
In general I think Microsoft Windows has precious few tastemakers. It's a radically consumerist / default system. There are basically no bonding grounds, no places where tasteful Windows users emerge from, gather at. And how could these things emerge from a radically consumerist / default system? Consumer OSes are define by their overwhelming colossal hordes of default users with ultra low interest just scratching by. There is no imaginable place for an interested engaged Windows community to take hold.
Basically it takes way outsider communities to drive this indifferent passive receptive commumity of Windows users to good. The Linux users have tadte, care, empathy... entirely unlike 98% of users who simply passively consume what they are given.
i fall hard away from you. disagree very heavily. it's a tasteless undiscerning world versus people who have some real consideration, who engage. we haven't really figured out how to let the rest of the world engage in a choiceful system, there's still rampant casual violence & disdain for alternatives that in truth work fine.
regardless, there's precious few tastemakers & people with legitimatizable opinions. i can think of few better users than the linux users use lambast, shirk, disdain as the people who have tastes, who care. i dont know why you would so callously & casually disdain caring & community like this. way out of touch to me: what better more responsible authority might we turn to?
I don't think most users could cite what changed between Windows versions. 7->8->10->11.... it's been such a wash. But Linux users see a lot of little things they expected, now semi available.
Microsoft is definitely stealing from the best, and the best ideas are clearly originating on Linux & in open-source.
I cant find any evidence of a predecessor to Synergy on Mac. Synergy was launched in May 2001, initially for for X11.
Good ideas always happen elsewhere. GUIs getting ripped off of of Xerox is no surprise. Overall there is, I'd claim, extremely little genuine innovation in UIs. GNOME seems to be one of the few out there willing to keep re-beginning, doing radical refreshes, but it's still not like boldly vastly different than other things. But Linux users, with their libre attitudes, are out there exploring & finding what is possible & what makes sense, across dozens of window mamagers & thousands of add-on components & endless exploring/reconfiguring... not just consuming. Of course MS is watching & borrowing the emerging stuff.
Remember what assumptions get you!
Could you please get your shit together and implement basic features we had for decades. The current state is an insult to accessibility.
Random devs are excused to know not all the stuff, but the team pushing what is supposed to be the framework to replace them all?
the menu buttons on the bottom is what mobile has been doing for more than a decade i think
what doesnt quite add up is:
"When it comes to something like actually being able to move the taskbar to different locations on the screen, there's a number of challenges with that," said Roth (via Neowin). "When you think about having the taskbar on the right or the left, all of a sudden the reflow and the work that all of the apps have to do to be able to understand the environment is just huge."
This didnt seem to be too much of an issue, previously, but something fundamental has changed, to make this a challenge
>> i took a look around and found this:
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
not sure if it still work or for how long but it claims to patch in a win10 taskbar
Th ExplorerPatcher utility, on the other hand, re-enables the Windows 10 taskbar. It also disables the Snap layouts. I expect that the Windows 10 taskbar will slowly break.
Perhaps alternative taskbars [1] will become popular at some point.
Did they also make it impossible to resize the task bar so it occupies half of the screen?