A Convo with Rocket Lab’s Peter Beck on Reusability, Launch Demand, and More
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Another recent interview with Peter Beck, as a podcast
https://www.wemartians.com/podcasts/118-planetary-exploratio...
It is clear from Rocket Lab's purchases of space hardware companies that they are well aware of SpaceX's downward pressure on launch prices, and are diversifying and vertically integrating their business, to include satellite design and build, as well as selling satellite components off the shelf like star trackers and (momentum) reaction control wheels.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/18/rocket-lab-acquires-solaer...
https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/15/rocket-lab-acquires-planet...
https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-acquires-software-company-a...
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/space-systems/satellite-compone...
Still, they have some interesting tech and appear to be really driven to become a serious player and I wish them well.
There's RocketLab, the up-n-comer.
There's Astra, sort of a launcher with all the wrong priorities.
But there's also ... Pythom ... which is really something else.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/pythom-space-tests-i...
Back when I was a barely supervised teenage boy we tried that strategy of pulling a 20+ foot structure upright with a truck, and managed to limit injuries one participant getting a bad rope burn. It seemed sketchy even to us, I can't guess at the thought process that lead to a bunch of grown literal rocket scientists trying it.
To be honest I'm jealous that they're still at it. You think they're hiring?
Think of the lawsuits...
I predict a Darwin award at some point of these people don't get with the program - several programs, in fact.
Speaking of which. How are they funded?
https://pythom.com/ps/Pythom-500k-Seed-Round-Closed-2020-03-...
Also: afterwards the legs appear to have bent quite a bit, and you have to wonder about what kind of stresses that put on the attachment points.
At least they're lucky, you can't deny them that.
What gets me though: they can design and build a rocket motor but get a whole pile of very basic stuff utterly wrong. How is that even possible?
That reminded our ROTC training on handling SCUD missiles which also had nitric acid as oxidizer - even for training without actual fuel/oxidizer we had to don the protection suits :) Anyway, looking at those guys i think i definitely can go ahead with my SpaceX competitor rocket project.
They are launching humans to sub-orbital space. They have working Ox-rich engine and such an engine has never before been built in the US. They are not SpaceX level but such a project is quite a complex under-taking.
They are a contractor for ULA and the whole military is depending on them. This is pretty serious business.
Sub-orbital launches are simply not useful, and a new type of engine only makes sense if it gives you a shorter path to the finish or a capability that you otherwise would not have. As for the military depending on them: SpaceX has been awarded a whole pile of contracts and the only thing that BO has going for it is to be able to ride the gravy train without delivering anything so far except for some research that may one day be useful.
Instead of competing in the marketplace it seems BO is better at playing politics and competing in the courts, but the latter they've lost and the politicians will sooner or later want deliverables and without those the gravy train will sooner or later roll to a halt. Note that the engine program is now 4 years behind schedule and not a single BE-4 has flown. Even BO admits that the engine has problems, which makes me wonder if it will ever fly with the present design, and if they have to go back to the drawing board you can add a couple of years more worth of delays.
Meanwhile, SpaceX launches a payload to orbit on average every 8 days for 2022 (once every 12 days in 2021), the amount of experience they are gaining alone is going to add up to a sizeable barrier.
And what a great video by the way.
I could see an argument for that given the time/resources invested compared to the results but ULA's future and a large fraction of Project Kupier's planned launches are tied to the success of the BE-4 so they do have immediate ambitions beyond suborbital tourist hops.
I also really enjoy their design sense, really cool to see a carbon-fiber rocket with a sense of style.
For example, take 4B/year from SLS. You could fund just an incredible amount of activity with that.
That is to replace the cost of launching one SLS. If you include development costs cancelling out SLS now would easily save $4B per launch + 10B+ of dev costs.
I think the proposal would be to open up funding for both additional launches AND additional science missions. For the let's say $6B/year or so, you could do a huge amount.
The only reason SLS is required is because the mission architects HAD TO use SLS in their architecture.
SLS in terms of what it does for it price would never be used in any architecture that tried to achieve the most with a given budget.
F9 Heavy can do a lot of good science missions, and many payload sizes are coming down. I'd personally include the Ariane stuff as well, James Webb launched on a Ariane 5 (around $200M per launch - so can get 20 launches on that or 10 launches + 10 new $200M science missions for one SLS).
This ignores the DEVELOPMENT cost of SLS which is mind bogglingly large as well as some of the ongoing just sustainment costs (also insane).
> There’s gonna be a lot of launch vehicles sitting on a pad waiting for payloads in the next few years.
It wasn't clear if that was because the demand pipeline was "done" or it was a chicken and egg scenario of businesses not having that locked in to develop on, which raises an interesting question of how much business there is for satellites even if launching was cheap and trivial.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcuOSXjevGs [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Sfw58jApo
My company (non-aerospace) just had a couple engineers leave for a different small launcher. I wish them success, but also wish their talent could be applied elsewhere. I say this as someone who just left the space industry.
Sure, there is no way that the launch market will need Rocketlab, Astra, Firefly, Relativity and Blue Origin on top of ULA and SpaceX. Especially if Starship is successful ( a big Starship rideshare + in-orbit shutteling services will be almost impossible to beat if that rocket ends up being actually reusable).
It will definitely put a downward pressure on prices. And even if they go under, the know how and the talent will still be useful.
In any case, building an orbital rocket is certainly a lot more interesting than building the umpteenth webapp or SasS.