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I don't know, you're possibly right. I think the influence (or lack there of) of LSD on Steve Jobs as mildly interesting. I think creativity and ingenuity is undervalued in the industry that HN caters to, but I understand the sentiment that this article or even my comment might be off-topic and that's fine.

On this post and (more) on other SteveJobs/LSD posts over the last year, I've seen people nearly talk about marijuana as if it is the destroyer of worlds, which I don't think any reputable scientist has possibly ever endorsed, yet people are scared and hide in their bunkers because they're never tried, done any research on their own, and just take the "AboveTheInfluence" ads at face value.

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"I've seen people nearly talk about marijuana as if it is the destroyer of worlds, which I don't think any reputable scientist has possibly ever endorsed"

Are you denying the negative effects drugs have on many people? Pot may not have many effects on physical health, but it certainly does on mental health.

Many people I know that smoke pot have almost no ambition. Pot becomes almost like a second girlfriend. Everything in life revolves around getting money to smoke more pot. I've seen this happen with way too many people to think that it's a unique case.

But, it actually helps me, because it just means less competition in the workforce.

"yet people are scared and hide in their bunkers because they're never tried, done any research on their own, and just take the "AboveTheInfluence" ads at face value"

How about the people that know how bad it is and just don't agree with the sentiment that it's good for you?

Your welcome to believe that it is bad for you and that you don't want to do it, but I disagree that that should translate to you saying other people can't do something.

We could easily replace pot with any number of substances, even legal psychoactive drugs. There are plenty of alcoholics in this world, does that mean that if I can enjoy alcohol occasionally and responsibly I shouldn't be able to? Many anxiety patients abuse their benzodiazapines, should patients that follow prescribed treatment and benefit from them also be made into villains?

I'm sorry for anyone who becomes dependent upon anything and hope they get help, I have experienced it with members of my own family. I'd like to think that a legal structure and clear education would help (though I don't recall in High School ever being given any instruction on responsible drinking, which should happen in my opinion). But some of us benefit from smoking within reason, from indulging in the rare psychoactive break from reality, that some people have problems with these things - doesn't mean everyone does.

Edit: I realize in the opening I use "you" saying other people shouldn't do it. In your comment, you don't make any explicit mention of supporting prohibition, and was using you there in the plural sense, apologize for the comment.

I see the drug overlords have again down-modded me for not being a troll and merely stating my opinion on the matter.

"Your welcome to believe that it is bad for you and that you don't want to do it, but I disagree that that should translate to you saying other people can't do something."

I'm fine with it as long as users of these drugs have to pay higher medical fees (if we ever have government-run health care).

The MJ bill in CA that didn't pass also would have made it difficult for an employer to fire an employee that uses regularly. This isn't okay with me.

And to be consistent, I'm sure you'll endorse higher medical fees (and abridged employment) for users of other, more dangerous substances such as alcohol, acetaminophen, and redundant girlfriends, to name but a few.

You don't get it, the MJ bill did not prevent employers from firing employees if they were not competent or able to keep up with their work or if they were impaired by their drug use. Again, you have the hand shaking, scary notion of marijuana, and it's frankly silly to the rest of us. People don't have higher associated medical costs because of marijuana, LSD, mushrooms, etc. It's a completely unfounded, fearful assumption on your part, frankly born of ignorance.

"People don't have higher associated medical costs because of marijuana, LSD, mushrooms, etc. It's a completely unfounded"

proof?

You can't honestly tell me that that nobody has higher associated medical costs as a result of MJ, LSD, and shrooms. Now who's being naive..

I actually might support MJ. However, my problem is that not only do you want it legalized, but you want to spread the false notion that it's actually ok (and actually has health benefits) to do these drugs.

Great point! I hereby endorse illegalizing second girlfriends as well.

It's not really fair of me to doubt people's anecdotes, but for ALL of the stoners I know, this has never been descriptive of them. Two of the biggest pot heads I know are starting a company and already have a dozen clients, and the others have 6 figure salaries waiting for them on the West coast.

"Two of the biggest pot heads I know are starting a company and already have a dozen clients, and the others have 6 figure salaries waiting for them on the West coast."

Again, why are people defending pot here like a second girlfriend?

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