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From what I've seen gmail follows user patterns than all this technical mumbo jumbo.

So for a small business owner even 1 person hitting the spam button can be a kiss of death for deliverablity (and I know people irl who think hitting spam and delete are the same thing <facepalm>).

Basically long story short, if you send 100 emails and 10 people open your email and click on something there is a high probability that the remaining 90 are also going in the primary inbox. Otoh if 2 people were to click the spam button then high chances are rest 98 are also going to spam and soon enough you'll be branded as such.

Its why inbox warmup services are so popular nowadays. While I disagree with such practices in theory as most often they are means to abuse filters, your case seems legit and so you may have some luck with that.

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Completely unique email from a new domain that has never mass emailed anything gets put into the spam immediately. It’s a very small chance anyone has ever clicked spam on my email.

If it’s a matter of the domain being “warmed up” then I basically have no chance. This is unfair.

> This is unfair.

Yes it is very unfair. Gmail is basically incentivizing you to send thousands of mails or use hacks like inbox warmups. The same happens for SEO when you have to care more about backlinking and keywords than actual content.

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it. It's how things are at the moment :/

> there is nothing you can do about it.

I can speak up about it. Others can too. We don’t have to live under these conditions.

Sadly speaking up about it only really helps if someone is listening.

Do you have a better idea to reduce the amount of spam?

It's a good thing that it's very hard to send lots of mails to strangers

Spammers do everything you do and a lot more, yet most of them are blocked(and just imagine what would happen if they could send as many mails as they want without going through all those hoops, we'd get basically nothing but spam)

The only reasonable solution if you're not a big/reputable business is to use a service like mailgun/mailjet/mailchimp/sendgrid, for a small business it would cost next to nothing(or even just 0$, if you can get some free credits or a small free plan)

It will save you a lot of headaches

I’m not a business. I don’t send mass emails. I never have.

when I say mass I mean more than the average user, especially to senders who never messaged you

I don’t send more emails than the average user. I send ~3 emails per week.

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