>when it carried out worse crimes than Russia ie invading Iraq or Vietnam?
With the exception of using chemical weapon (agent orange) and napalm, you gonna have to extrapolate and provide source for your claim.
With the exception of using chemical weapon (agent orange) and napalm, you gonna have to extrapolate and provide source for your claim.
Or as Wikipedia puts it: "United States war crimes - This list is incomplete; you can help by adding missing items."
no no no ... you cant blame US like that. It's pure as driven snow. It's champion of democracy. Pristine. Flawless.
The whole iraq invasion resulted in 7k civilian deaths. Pretty sure the russians are topping that in ukraine. For comparison, another case of shock and awe in recent history was done by russians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994%E2%80%9... which resulted in the death of approx 6% of the civilian population in Grozny. Its not like Syria or Afghanistan was conducted any different, so this is what we can expect.
Sources other than american tv provide vastly different numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
The current Ukraine civilian death count is only up to 1.5k so far [3], so Russia's got a lot of catching up to do before it can compete with what's happening in Iraq (though I truly hope it doesn't).
[0]: https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
[1]: https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Ira...
[3]: https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/04/ukraine-civilian-casua...
The Iraq Body Count project (IBC) documented a higher number of civilian deaths up to the end of the major combat phase (May 1, 2003). In a 2005 report,[86] using updated information, the IBC reported that 7,299 civilians are documented to have been killed, primarily by U.S. air and ground forces.
Civil war instigated by US and arming the insurgents similar to how they armed the Mujhadeen and the ISIS and Ukraine....
As garbage as "they're next to us and have some shared history" is for a reason to try to conquer someone, it's still a hundred times better than invading a country on the other side of the planet, turning it in to a war zone for a decade/decades, then leaving when you got bored is.
oh ok. We will have to disregard those?
Sure champion of democracy worldwide. sure.
The emperor is without clothes and the senile old leader is stuttering out nonsense while rabidly protecting his son's assets in Ukraine.
But whatever helps you sleep in peace at night.
Because then you'll notice a few things: a its acknowledgement of certain USA war crimes and b that its tongue in cheek.
Although also c and d too its always a good idea to provide sources for any claim (especially heinous acts) and most people associate war crimes with human-by-human acts such as mass rape, genocide and forceful relocation, which I'm genuinely interested in knowing if USA has done such act.