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News for the Future of BeeWare

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Not being familiar with BeeWare, my first thought when reading the title was "oh no, another project shutting down?" - because without the "exciting" before it (which was probably removed to avoid appearing "spammy"), "News for the Future" sounds kind of ominous...

My heart dropped when reading the title because Russell has dedicated years to BeeWare.

As a non-code contributor to the project (years ago) I'm so happy to know BeeWare will be able to sustain itself for the foreseeable future.

Congrats to Russell and his team. Props to Anaconda for being a good steward of the open source community.

Great news. BeeWare is one those projects I've been following for years, hoping that it would get just a bit more 'done' so that I could really start using it.

Hopefully this allows BeeWare to become "the" python toolkit for mobile. We've been talking about this sort of thing for more than a decade at this point, and it's a shame that the big boys of the ecosystem (FAANG etc) have basically contributed nothing - choosing to go all in on JS tools instead.

I think this says more about how hard it is to make Python performant for this than JavaScript.

Additionally, don't discount that both of the mobile OS vendors maintain their own JS engines that are directly accessible on their platforms, which makes integration faster and easier to build bindings around.

good news. Beeware are one set of tools I've been waiting to try forever (build iOs/Android Guis with Python? Sign me up!).

But comments here warned me the tools were not stable and production ready.

It would be nice to see them finally reach production level.

That's a developers dream come true there, super happy for you!

Man, I got excited thinking it was a software suite for beekeeping.

As someone with an interest in (but very little direct experience with) beekeeping, I'm curious what such a suite of tools would look like. All of the beekeepers in my area are very low tech.

It depends on what scale they're targeting. Quick search show about a dozen options. It looks like most of them are about documenting hive characteristics and schedules (how old the queen is, when to treat the hive, mite counts, etc). I haven't really looked into them since I'm low tech about it too, and only have a handful of hives.

I thought maybe this was an open source version that I could check out for free and maybe even get involved with. I was disappointed it wasn't about it at all. I wonder why/how they picked that name.

This is fantastic news.

Beeware Projects: https://beeware.org/project/projects/

huge news, congrats! and thanks to the team at Anaconda!

Great news!

Considering that Anaconda removed its free license [0] I hope the project proceeds to also being pip installable.

[0]:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24974841

The free license has not been removed.

Did you actually read the underlying resource[1] or am I missing something? It just requires for-profit or government organisations (with over 200 employees!) to purchase a commercial license.

Seems more than reasonable tbh. I can see the "government organisation" being tricky though.

What is the exact problem you are identifying?

[1]https://www.anaconda.com/blog/anaconda-commercial-edition-fa...

there will always be a free version of Anaconda for individual hobbyists, academics, non-profits, and small businesses

The free license has been severely curtailed. There are many organisations with >=200 employees which might have <=5 developers. In addition, while the client remains open source, the repository (which is almost as important for a package manager) is where the payments are enforced, and also unlike most code repositories, prohibits mirroring[1]

https://www.anaconda.com/terms-of-service

Perfectly fine to charge commercial organisations that can employ multiple devs, I don't see what the issue is for those .

I've not read the resource either, but it sounds like (from only reading your and GP comment) Anaconda moved something from free-as-in-freedom to free-as-in-beer-as-long-as-non-commercial.

Which is reasonable enough to me.

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