> Who in this thread said "we wouldn't have EVs without Musk"?

I was attempting to paraphrase a common sentiment, and should have been more clear about that. It’s pretty easy to find people stating a varient of this idea in sibling threads.

> To say that the idea of one person changing the world has been discredited is so wildly wrong I don't even know where to start.

You could start by actually reading what I said, rather than making up for yourself and then arguing against that. Everything you said here is unrelated to my point, and directly countermanded by my actual words.