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I dont know about electric cars, but what Elon did with space x is simply incredible.

Commercial space flights were becoming rarer and rarer out of the US, and now it is the most common.

The price of space flight while still high, was reduced by a huge percentage.

I’m sure he told many lies to get there. But economics and physics don’t really lie.

I like him for the reasons I like Kanye, Bernie Sanders, and Trump (though I only voted for the first). Just says crazy things, but some of them are just truths that we’ve all chosen to ignore it don’t like to accept.

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You wrote in Kanye West for president, thought enough other voters would join you to make doing so worth anything to you and your vote, and share that extremely poor adult judgment confidently and publicly? You like him because he says shit? I mean I say shit, too, would you vote for me even if my entire policy platform was incoherent and I stalk and abuse my exes and their new partners in public? You realize his entire presidential bid was for attention and his staff couldn’t even make the deadline to get him on the ballot, right?

With respect, this comment makes you sound like a contemptible, gullible fool that makes society actively worse. I really hope you’re being a bit facetious.

Kanye 2024. :)

Seriously though this is my point. Kanye is absurd. A fool you might say. Like Trump and Bernie. Yet if you live in an upside down world, you might say some obvious truth, and it will further make you like a fool.

I like that back in 04 he was talking about the way blacks are treated in America, before all the woke fools decided it was popular.

And Beyonces video was better than Taylor’s.

The funny part to me is you actually think your vote for Joe means something.

“George Bush doesn’t care about black people” - at the time made Mike Myers jaw drop. People forget that being publicly critical like that was unpopular back then. That it would cost you money and contracts.

Now if you say “I think Trump likes black people” you are lambasted like Kanye was for saying George bush didn’t.

Why is Bernie absurd? His policy positions are pretty standard in the conext of European Democracies.

It's really not.

>Sanders, in particular, suggested that the US could adopt a socialist system by emulating Scandinavia. “I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people,” said the US presidential candidate, who identifies himself as a “democratic socialist.”

But Danish prime minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen, speaking at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government this week, says Sanders got more than a few things wrong.

“I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”

https://qz.com/538499/denmark-says-it-isnt-the-socialist-uto...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-wrong-d...

How is writing in Kanye West for president in any way inferior to just not voting? It's obviously a protest vote.

"a contemptible, gullible fool that makes society actively worse", seems a little overwrought to me.

> I dont know about electric cars

There was that time Tesla bought Musk's cousin's failing rooftop solar company.

Yeah seems suspect huh?

What did Elon do exactly beyond take credit for the work of talented engineers?

Provide an environment where those talented engineers could accomplish something no other environment allowed them to. It's not like there aren't talented people at Boeing or Lockheed and it's not like those talented people just came out of thin air, it takes amazing leadership and a strong vision to bring talented people together to accomplish something that to this day no other rocket company is still capable of doing.

There are probably a lot of great leaders and managers at SpaceX.

Even if Musk were nothing but hype (and I think he deserves a bit more credit than that), that very hype appears to have been a decisive factor in solving the chicken-and-egg problem of electric car proliferation needing charger networks, and charger networks needing electric car proliferation.

So I would credit him with at least that accomplishment.

If only there was a way to filter the signal from the noise. Maybe if we locked them in a room together?

I would love to be a fly on that wall.

Elon, Bernie, Kanye, Trump - most things they say are just noise.

You must own NFTs it sounds like you really buy into hype. People just say they are Jesus Christ come to earth and you just go "Well yeah okay that's amazing"

What are NFTs? One of those blockchain proof of ownership things right, but like for gifs? What’s weird is I can imagine a dystopian future where NFTs are valuable. I hope not though. But post COVID the world seems ridiculous to me so who knows.

“Hands on” on the Jesus is King album is one of my favorites, and I do think he might have a messiah complex, but he isn’t saying follow me, but follow God.

Kanye is not a role model to imitate. But he does seem to play a large role in the cosmos (or think the story that will be told centuries from now). Like Elon I’d say.

I can appreciate Trump, and I can appreciate Bernie. I appreciate Kanye’s art and often his blunt words. My vote for him was purely symbolic. He wasn’t even on the ballot in my state.

> I can appreciate Trump

The guy incited a deadly insurrection to subvert democracy to keep himself in power. He also extorted Ukraine by withholding weapons for his personal political gain. He was impeached for both.

May I suggest quitting news for a while and going outside?

You're not making any sense right now...

Well I did appreciate him until he paid Putin his buddy, to start a war with Ukraine just so Biden would look bad.

The crap economy is definitely all his fault. And gas prices, his fault. And he doesn’t even care about climate change.

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