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I have seen more and more that it is Apple that usually starts these practices, and since their users generally give them unlimited leeway towards these things (happening right now in this very thread!) it becomes the new standard. Then Microsoft, Google and others follow suit. The "try Safari" notifications when opening Chrome or Firefox have been a thing in macOS forever. Same with advertising and upsells built into the OS.

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For a while, there would be a macOS notification suggesting that you try Safari after updating. This notification should be gone with the latest macOS. Are you talking about something else?

Don't know about updating, but that notification is also triggered when you open Chrome or Firefox.

I feel like I may have seen this notification once, but there was an easy “no thanks” option. That didn’t seem nearly as bad as this.

Apple may have started the latest round of this. But Microsoft was aggressively pushing their browser clear back in the 90s, and I don't think Apple was.

Well Safari did not exist in the 90s but Apple was bundling Safari with iTunes back in the days (https://www.cnet.com/culture/apple-pushes-safari-on-windows-...). It was auto-selected, so people who quickly click on 'Ok' for updating iTunes would find themselves downloading an extra 20+mb and installing a browser they did not want.

Apple doesn't even allow any other browser than Safari on iOS. All the other browsers are just shells for Safari. And this is the case even in the EU.

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