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Canada will ban sales of combustion engine passenger cars by 2035

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14 pointsmanesioz8 comments

Speaking strictly from an environmental impact perspective, has the industrial technology to mine all of the minerals needed for all of these car batteries been converted to electric? How does the entire flow of building and operating a car with an ICE compare to the total environmental impact of electric cars? And what happens when all of these car batteries need to be recycled at some point?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232178

By 2035 ICE vehicles will not make sense for consumers anyway; the law will be redundant as electric cars will be better vehicles. For many people they already are.

The purpose is to lock in automaker supply chain conversions (which takes years to transition). Legacy automakers have proven you can’t rely on them to move to EVs unless they’re dragged there by public policy and an industry innovator. Tesla (and GM/VW to a lesser extent) showed EVs were able to replace combustion vehicles with very little compromise, bolstering these policy moves.

Stellantis would make combustion vehicles for as long as they could, for example.

https://electrek.co/2021/12/02/stellantis-ceo-complains-forc...

I think you are missing a big understanding of their market. In Europe (Stellantis' primary market) cars are smaller and people spend less than North America, families have less cars, more families live in apartments and the electric charging infrastructure is worse. But a lot of people still like to be able to drive long distances, and for those an EV doesn't make sense as their primary car.

Their top car in 2021 was the Peugeot 208, which is also the #2 car in Europe (after the similar sized VW Golf). The petrol version starts at €22k, and the electric version starts at €28k (after incentives). That gives you maybe 250km of range. Where I live, that's not even enough to drive to the beach - one way - for the weekend, yet my petrol car could go there and back on a single tank.

At the end of the day what they say is correct, EVs will be more expensive than ICE vehicles and it'll be hard for the industry to transition. Maybe that's not a bad thing though... people will keep older vehicles running longer instead of buying new cars every 2 years.

Canada simply will not have the infrastructure to support this outside of major cities. Hopefully I'm proven wrong but I know people down the street from me where the max speed of internet you can get is 15mbps. I got a lot of places where there would not be any feasible way to charge my vehicle and make the full journey and that's only within a few hours of multiple major cities.

Too little, too late.

Shall we give up and go back to coal then? Also no longer require cat converters?

What does that comment do other than demotivate people actually trying to do something?

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