Nothing but love for Zulip honestly. But getting my company to switch from slack or teams seems to be impossible.
For a good example of how great Zulip can be: the rust-lang zulip instance is a shining example.
For a good example of how great Zulip can be: the rust-lang zulip instance is a shining example.
... which is frustrating, because its Linux desktop app is still quite poor and buggy in the basics.
Nothing but hate for the chat/collaboration features…
Yeah, Teams is the worst of them in every dimension.
Atlassian (Confluence/JIRA) otherwise.
Sorry about Jira. :)
Zoom's ugly as hell, but the Linux client has long been fairly reliable. Teams meanwhile is plagued by issues that don't seem to affect some other Electron-based apps or Chromium. During meetings it'll start out fine, then a minute in it'll suddenly use microphone. Opening any settings views tends to knock audio out of working state, too. Their official forums are full of threads on this, and support people suggesting crazy mitigations such as running it as root (admin user).
The most recent release seems to be from September 2021, which is positively ancient for something based on a browser engine and using it to display complex content from remote hosts.
Then again Microsoft sites don't seem to work with security keys in Firefox either.
On MacOS it behaves pretty ok. Once you get used to the weird double text box.
Big companies where IT is considered a cost center and day-to-day users have no say in their tools will be using Teams, partly because they have no choice but also because for a lot of them the standard is already Windows and "Skype For Business" and they legitimately don't know how much better other tools are.
In smaller companies where day-to-day users have a say in their tools, Teams would absolutely not fly, especially when said users most likely have experience with better tools such as Slack.
Teams however… the search functionality where you can find the message but can’t jump to it so that you can see the rest of the conversation.
I actually scrolled up for some 5 minutes non-stop once trying to get to the conversation like that
A quiet (?) teams seems to behave better than the absolute crapshow of slack 'apps' at my current gig.
All that being said, I do kinda like the outlook calendar app, means I never have to go to office.com anymore ;)
All the platforms have wonderful apps, even the web fallback is feature complete, and a breeze to use. The ecosystem of 3rd party integrations and apps is just incredibly big... All of this works consistently, probably more than 99.99 of uptime, and almost never we had any service disruption.
It definitely pays for itself.
the only reason companies use slack/teams/gmail is because those services understand the data belongs to their clients (the employer) and will provide ways to access private chats/change ownership of private documents/etc with zero trouble.
I was genuinely shocked to learn that slack admins can configure it so that certain folks can read private chats. Once that became known, most of my team offloaded to discord/keybase (at a previous gig with toxic leadership).