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Comment by donohoe | Hacker News Reader

You wouldn't think it if you went by this:

https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/

I’m sure it wasn’t when you posted 10 minutes prior, but FWIW currently listing 11 outages:

> App Store - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users may be experiencing intermittent issues with this service.

Apple Arcade - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected This service may be slow or unavailable.

Apple Music - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected This service may be slow or unavailable.

Apple TV+ - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users may be experiencing a problem with Apple TV+. We are investigating this issue.

iTunes Store - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected This service may be slow or unavailable.

Podcasts - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users are experiencing a problem with this service. We are investigating and will update the status as more information becomes available.

Radio - Outage Today, 12:32 PM - ongoing Some users are affected This service may be slow or unavailable.

Apple Business Manager - Outage Today, 1:14 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users may be unable to sign in.

Apple School Manager - Outage Today, 1:14 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users may be unable to sign in.

Device Enrollment Program - Outage Today, 1:14 PM - ongoing Some users are affected Users are experiencing a problem with this service. We are investigating this issue.

Schoolwork - Outage Today, 1:14 PM - ongoing Some users are affected This service may be slow or unavailable.

At the bottom of that status page, it says: Looking for developer system status? Find it here: https://developer.apple.com/system-status/

The link is currently not working...

Looks like that link is working now...and shows a page of all GREEN :-)

18 red as of 2:50PM EDT

A lot of system status pages are updated by humans who will verify issues before reporting them. Main reason is to avoid overly surface every minor and transitory issue to public view.

Quite easy to verify if the entire developer site is down though, non?

It's very easy, except when it's hard. Also, it's never easy.

Joking, but only somewhat. That's because the easy cases are handled by automation, etc. If you knew it could happen, you probably planned for it. Figuring out what the issue is, if there really is an issue, and the scope of the issue can take some time.

No. “Doesn’t respond for me” doesn’t imply “down for lots of people”. If you discover that foo.com doesn’t respond, it takes a while to figure out whether that’s on your system, in your network, in the city, etc.

Yes, you would set up multiple hosts across the world polling that server, but that adds complexity. Maybe, those pollers decide the site is down because of a bug in your network setup, while the rest of the world happily uses your services.

Pingdom seem to manage it. Pretty sure one of the FAANGS could to. I appreciate an obscure managed service might be a bit diffcult, but main developer site?

My response was to “Quite easy to verify if the entire developer site is down though, non?”

I never claimed it’s impossible, just that it isn’t “quite easy”, especially to check that the “entire developer site is down”. The home page may be down, with the rest being up, the home page may be up, with the rest being down, etc.

Looks like it’s been updated. Currently showing 11 services down, some of which have been down for over an hour.

That is just a static github page with html. These are just green dots on a screen.

Well make sense to me to host your status page outside your main infrastructure.

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