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What're the alternatives to Firefox? The only ones that come to mind are Opera and Brave, and Brave had some controversy too.

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LibreWolf is one alternative.

https://librewolf.net/

https://privacytests.org/

Looks great, but their only focus is desktop it seems (ie, no android solution)

Well, to be fair if you run Android that’s another bag of privacy problems. But phones are a whole different discussion. We need more Linux phones!

Check out Mull on Android.

Opera was sold off to Chinese investors, and I recall stories about it offering sketchy banking/bitcoin services.

Lynx is the only one I trust, but it's quite limited. Everything else has my suspicion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)

w3m too.

What's the lynx-but-graphical alternative?

I just want a minimal web view and input a URL. Why doesn't this exist

> What's the lynx-but-graphical alternative?

Dillo or elinks

> I just want a minimal web view and input a URL.

Surf (suckless project)

Also thanks, TIL alternatives do exist

Elinks looks like it hasn't had an update in years. There's a fork of it called Felinks [0] which seems pretty actively maintained. The last release was on December 24, 2021.

[0] https://github.com/rkd77/elinks

It does exist, it's called netsurf[0].

[0]: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/

oh! Thanks

Maybe Min [0] works for you.

[0] https://minbrowser.org/

I see Vivaldi is good browser, operated by former opera people

I've been using Vivaldi ever since reintroduced tab stacking which I loved from the Opera days. Solid browser, no complaints.

It's closed source, right?

The UI stuff on top of Chromium is closed. They don't want it ripped off I guess. Vivaldi an awesome browser for those who like to customize.

Vivaldi is still Chrome though

Yes, I'm in Vivaldi as well. For now! We need to avoid making software/product choices part of our identity.

A true firefox fan would've raised the alarm years ago, and voted with their feet when it kept moving in the wrong direction and stopped being the best option on the market.

Loving a brand no matter what they do is suboptimal.

I read about librewolf the other day which is a fork of firefox.

Edit: BTW what happens if I download Firefox from site like Softpedia.All the people who downloaded Firefox from this website have same identifier?

Yes, the article mentions Mozilla's http repository[0] and some other third party as ways to download it without a unique identifier.

[0] https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

I've been using librewolf for a while after experiencing issue with waterfox.

it is not really a full fork of firefox, it's firefox with a few patches applied and sane default configuration.

Nyxt,"the hacker's power-browser"?! https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/

What is controversial about Brave? Seems like the best alternative at the moment IMHO

One of many controversies: https://www.techworm.net/2020/06/brave-browser-cryptocurrenc...

Some folks object to the Brave Rewards system and the embedded crypto wallet.

I just disabled all of that. No Chromium browser is my main browser but when I need one, Brave seems like the best option.

If you were to pick between Brave, Vivaldi and I dunno, maybe Edge, just for when you need Chrome-compatibility and pretty much no other reason, which one would you pick and why?

Ungoogled Chromium.

Ungoogled chromium is the most google-less you can go when it comes to using chromium engine.

Honestly forgot this existed. I’ll look into it.

Vivaldi. Like Firefox, it has cross-system syncing (Windows, MacOS, Linux -- including Android & Raspberry Pi).

It is opt-in and also extremely easy to enable/disable.

It also comes with a built-in ad blocker that works really good.

It's fast and doesn't eat your CPU/RAM.

Recommended, 100%.

Disclaimer: Not a Brave shill.

Even without all the controversies, Brave is still Chrome.

Brave is still Chromium you mean. Chrome is a browser by Google. Chromium is the open-source engine.

this: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html

this: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/blob/master/app/trac...

also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers...

then this: https://teddit.net/r/FoamList/comments/q4z5js/brave_browser_...

They report anonymised data that can be turned off. They also connect to servers for auto updates and safe browsing checks, everything you would expect of a modern secure browser.

The people upset with brave for auto updates also consider tor browser spyware because it checks for updates LOL.

Careful, Opera is owned by a Chinese company that is controlled by the CCP.

What you want is Vivaldi.

Librefox https://github.com/intika/Librefox/

As pointed out elsewhere, this is unmaintained, and you should instead use https://librewolf.net/

Does not work with 1password for me. Seems I'm not the only one: https://www.reddit.com/r/LibreWolf/comments/qom9br/1password...

waterfox and librewolf.

then otter, seamonkey, falkon, k-meleon, srware iron, qutebrowser, comodo dragon and comodo icedragon, dooble, midori, epic.

not sure if maxthon and Avant Browser are still a thing

I always thought Otter was just a mobile browser! Thanks for sharing! I love hearing about obscure browsers!

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