> Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt.
(Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false).
No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine.
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
> Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt.
(Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false).
No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine.
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
The continuation of the phrase mentioned later in the same pamphlet is also nice:
SV: Motstånd skall göras ständigt och i alla lägen.
EN: Resistance shall be made constantly and in all situations.
It also mentions the classic "En svensk tiger" (lit. "A Swede stays silent") illustrated by a tiger in the Swedish colors since the word has double meaning in Swedish.
Minor nitpick, the correct translation isn't "resistance has ceased" but "resistance shall cease".
Du har rätt :)
I quoted and translated from memory, then googled for the correct quote.
The current statement is:
> Om Sverige blir angripet av ett annat land kommer vi aldrig att ge upp. Alla uppgifter om att motståndet ska upphöra är falska.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout
Last confirmed holdout in 1974, almost 30 years after ww2 ended for Japan.
The caption implies that this is from 1993, but it's a much more recent crop of cadets on a visit to Vares later.
Not necessarily. Here it is:
> Cadets view the sign on the Nordbat 2 school in Vareš and testify of the city's appreciation of the Swedish UN Federation's efforts in autumn 1993. (Johan Nordén/Försvarsmakten)
That must be intended to say the appreciated efforts took place in autumn 1993. But yeah, somewhat ambiguous.
> but it's a much more recent crop of cadets on a visit to Vares later.
Kind of a pilgrimage? If the pic was relatively recent at the time of that blog post (September 2017), many (most?) of those cadets probably hadn't even been born in 1993.
I'm not middle-aged, I'm from the Middle Ages.
(Works better in Swedish: Jag är inte medelålders, jag är medeltida.)
By the way, I'm curious about the word "uppges". After running the sentence both through DeepL.com and Google Translate they seem to return the translation "Any message that the resistance should be stated is false" (though DeepL does list "abandoned" and "quit" among many options in the translation result dropdown). Also, after checking out Wiktionary [0]. I see it only lists "to give as a fact; to state" as a translation for the verb.
This is the first time DeepL has failed me in providing a reasonable translation on the first try. Is this usage of "uppges" to mean something analogous to "cease" very rare or old fashioned, and somehow missing from Wiktionary? Would the meaning of that sentence be unambiguous to any native Swede even if they had never seen that message before?
The text is from the 60's and it shows in exactly the type of language used.
> Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt.
a more direct translation: "Every message that resistence should be given up is false"
This is why we "linguistic prescriptivists" fight our lonely rearguard action: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30712765
> If Sweden is attacked by another country, we will never give up. All information to the effect that resistance is to cease is false.
I love this, as in California the phone directories all had a section about what to do in an earthquake and other emergency. Local knowledge for local situations.
The reason was that in those days the telephone book was the only book you could guarantee would be in every house (the unstated reason was that it was the only thing a government could use to push a message into every house -- even in the US where the phone system was nominally private, the government exerted significant pressure on their operations).
I wonder how many people even knew that section existed, much less consulted it.
The Californian one on earthquakes? No idea. But the Swedish one on war: Pretty much everybody certainly knew of it, and probably most had at least cursorily perused it.
Stay Alert! Trust no one! Keep your laser handy!
(OK, that last one came from somewhere else).
The Computer is your friend.
[1] https://wikiless.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game)?lang=...
Which is exactly why RT and its American (and other) repeaters are so insiduous.
Is this a usage of ska I haven't learned?
Do note however that Swedish is famous for multiple meanings of words.
The verb "ska" (short form of "skola"), has at least 5 meanings.
1. will do <something>: "jag ska bara äta först"
2. (conditionals), something could happen: "om du hade pengar, skulle du ha råd med en iphone"
3. (enforcing rules): "man ska inte slå sina barn"
4. (signaling intention): "jag ska åka på semester"
5. (communicating an statement, not nessecarily truthful): "han ska vara välhängd"