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Can someone explain why they actually care about this? I always see such strong opinions on it but really, why does it matter to you? Most clocks are digital and change automatically these days and otherwise changing your clocks twice a year is such a minor inconvenience. And whether or not the light should be preferred in the morning or vending is probably a pretty even split. Maybe it’s better to get rid of it (I don’t know) but to care about it strongly seems odd. What am I missing?

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For 1-2 weeks post-time-change, I used to adjust okay, it was just annoying.

But kids and pets have no clue what's going on, and their bodies are basically jolted into a different sleep schedule since society doesn't have any ramp-up/ramp-down into the new hour difference.

We have basically been fighting to get our kids up (fighting against their own bodies' sleep schedules and instincts) this week. And when the time changes again in the fall, we end up getting woken up "an hour early" since the kids don't care to sleep an extra hour that day.

I propose we add add/subtract a second from every other minute over a 5 day smear.

Personally I enjoy being having the sun up after work. My fitness and general happiness immediately improves when daylight saving starts and drops when it ends. For me the year has eight good months and four shitty months. After this change it’ll be more like ten good months and two mediocre months. Those additional hours of time when I can enjoy the world really do mean a lot to me.

I understand that there are other people with lifestyles that benefit more from sun in the morning, and they aren’t wrong, they are just different.

Because it’s a huge annoyance and wrecks the schedule twice a year of many children, pets, and crontabs.

Yeah but my point is that this is a massive exaggeration. People are acting like a one hour shift in time gives them jet lag when most of them likely adjust their sleep times every weekend and week start anyway without complaint.

Light in the evening is massively more useful than light in the morning. Sports, hobbies, anything involving the outdoors. It's not really useful to have that hour in the morning when you're just getting ready for school/work anyway.

a) if you're a software developer who works on anything related to time, changing up timezones is always scary

b) if you're someone who has a strong preference for when they do outdoor activities, day vs night can make a big difference

c) if you wake up in the dark, work all day, then drive home in the dark it's kind of a downer (latitude dependant)

The human body likes a consistent schedule. When the schedule is disturbed, you get problems like these:

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/heart-health/why-daylight-...

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/daylight-saving-can-m...

It's not really about the the hassle of changing clocks, or even really about the shift itself, though it is annoying and completely arbitrary. While the time shift itself does matter if you know people in locations that do not observe any DST (like Arizona), its mostly just about the time of day when its light out.

I have yet to meet anyone in my circle who prefers standard time (lighter in the morning) over daylight savings time (lighter in the evening). Admittedly, its a small samples size, mostly made up of engineers who tend to start work later and end later. But there are also many teachers and parents who operate on the asinine schedule of schools which require children to be present and learning as early as 7:30am.

Personally, I am never awake before the sun, whether in summer or winter, so I am much happier when the sun stays up later in my day. When the clock shifts back in the winter, it gets dark by around 4:30 or 5pm, and I find myself not wanting to work as late into the day. In the spring, when the clock shifts forward, I immediately start working later without any specific effort; it just happens naturally.

My kids hate it, there is data to show that children suffer a bit from it (although quickly correct)

I hate it because I have to remember whether it's PDT or PST right now.

Huge deal? No. Would I prefer it just be one or the other? Absolutely.

As someone who suffers from insomnia, the switching of the clocks really messes with my natural circadian rhythm. I find it takes a least a week for me to naturally adjust and it sucks. It's also shown to lead to more heart attacks. https://www.acc.org/about-acc/press-releases/2014/03/29/09/1...

In "spring forward", people lose 1 hour of sleep. The fatige from that has life & death consequences (although I've heard this might be overblown).

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.h...

No one cares about physically changing clocks—that's a minor annoyance at worst. I care because I get jet-lagged twice a year for no good reason. I've missed both my morning meetings this week because my body does _not_ like getting up earlier. As I get older it seems to get worse.

In part because not all clocks are digital.

So now I have to adjust my old thermostat, my stove, microwave, toothbrush charger, and who knows what else.

It also messes with my sleep schedule for a whole week, whereas the body can easily adjust to the gradual changes of the season.

I like doing things outside after work, while in the morning I'm always inside working or getting ready for work. Having an extra hour of daylight is a huge QoL improvement for evening activities.

i prefer it being around, if only because i come from an area that, in the winter time, has 8 hours of daylight to kick off the season. it's nicer to have that start at 8:30 am instead of 9:30

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