Oxidation makes tea black
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There were a bunch of charts about time and temperature and humidity for various types of tea but the biggest fact was slightly buried. 'fermentation' with respect to tea is a bit of a euphemism. It's actually autolysis. The big epiphany moment for me was connecting the dots and seeing why that was the case. Caffeine is an insecticide. It's stored in little crystals in the tissue. With oxalic acid, the crystals are the point. They're sharp and they damage the attacker.
With caffeine it's metabolic disruption. Within other organelles in the tea leaf are enzymes that can decompose the caffeine crystals into a solluble form. These chemicals only mix when the leaf is bruised, or masticated. They are booby trapped.
When you process camellia sinensis into tea, the oldest process is matcha, which started in China and is now mostly preserved in Japan, is drying the leaves and then powdering them, which I presume frees up some of the caffeine simply by mechanical decomposition. For the others the leaves are processed by bruising, heating and drying the leaves, and the order and duration dictates which kind of tea you get, and how much of the caffeine has been converted to a form that is water soluble. Black tea is aged longer, and has more available caffeine.
Almost none of them are actually fermented as in beer (puehr is the most notable, and the common reaction upon smelling it is, "This reminds me of my grandmother's garden." It is an acquired taste.) Edit: and kombucha, which is fermented after being steeped, rather than before. Also by many accounts an acquired taste.
But then I google that and there are some seriously red looking teas out there.
This is your regular Darjeeling tea or whatever dried tea leaves which are boiled with baking soda for " hours" to process them.
The result is a pink color that is consumed with salt. No sugar here.
People are pretty much addicts of this.
A quick recipe search online showed it being mixed with sugar and milk and stuff, but I guess that's just an adjustment for western palates?
this is really an acquired taste
Regarding "oldest process" though, I'm not sure which is the earliest processing method for tea but compressed tea / tea bricks as Pu-erh (although compressed tea ≠ Pu-erh) is attributed to Tang dynasty (AD 618-907) and it precedes Matcha which is attributed to the Song dynasty period (960–1279).
At the time, puehr was about to have a little resurgence but was pretty obscure in the west. I'm not sure which of us redacted that from the brief timeline.
I like a little puehr once in a while. It tastes like leaf mould smells, which is probably not far off from reality.
Edit: some imported tea is still delivered in compressed bricks, green, black and oolong. Among those are teas that are treated like scotch. and I have seen but not tasted a 25 year old tea brick (which I think she kept in part for bragging rights. IIRC it was not for sale.) I already have a Scotch habit, I don't need to be buying 18 year old tea on top of it, so as curious as I was I made no attempts to get involved in any private tea tastings.
Pu-erh really can be weird, Hei-Cha even weirder I think. It took my quite a while to like pu-erh and if it wasn't for its aesthetics I'm not sure I'd have bothered to try that much. For my palate, Shou pu-erh teas were an easier taste to acquire. It took me a lot of trial and error to get my palate around Shengs but now I like it well enough to get the same kind of craving I get for a good coffee.
Nice to see there's a sub-community of tea lovers here on HN.
Guo Pu noted in the book Er Ya (Chinese: 尔雅), the earliest Chinese dictionary, tea can be boiled to consume like thick soup. More precisely, to make a cup of tea at that time you need to mix millet and other condiments with tea leaves first them boil them together till mushy state
https://www.teavivre.com/info/ways-of-drinking-tea-in-ancien...
Consuming tea as thick soup to me suggests the idea that maybe tea was used in that way even back in Han dynasty (I'm sure that whether this is correct or not would be obvious to a historian, which I'm not).
Do you have any recommendations for a curriculum of sort for tea history?
Strange thing happened: I was flying my kite for kite aerial photography and a chinese ((or taiwanese) or japanese) tourist noted my blackened teeth an told that green tea does not color. And it worked ok. Even the cheapest Lidl tea works ok. I bit of acquired taste, but you will learn to love it.
The difference is huge if you have a high quality green tea. Also make sure to use the right temperature to infuse. I would never go higher than 80°C and for some teas I only us 70°C. This is the most important thing a lot of people do wrong. Hotter water destroys the flavor and makes the tea bitter. Also very short steeping times from 1m to 1,5m are the norm.
Another thing noteworthy is that you can actually use a portion of green tea for 2-3 times depending on the quality (on the same day).
Basically every green tea product on amazon, even those in the price range of $50 for a standard quantity, has loads of reviews talking both about how excellent it is and how terrible it is, each bringing detailed points in their favor.
I figure it's mostly due to review warfare between products, but in any case the situation is quite dismal—I investigated something like 30 products and couldn't find a single one that looked like a safe purchase, even with a very flexible budget.
Not sure where else to look since the same problem exists on a larger scale with the rest of the internet since everyone's trying to push their brand or trash someone else's.
Aside from the online merchants you can find small tea shops in all cities usually.
And aside from the quality the taste preferences vary a lot obviously. Most tea shops offer some set/package with a lot of different teas in small quantities for testing.
I think black (red) tea is very much worth it. I just couldn't do without at least a single cup a day. I do brush my teeth afterwards though.
The claim is that the acidity of the tea will soften your teeth and lead to damage from the brushing.
I have tasted genuine Silver Needles but was not impressed.
"Without oxidation, tea would taste unbearably bitter."
Perhaps white tea has not reached an adult phase with the associated bitterness.
Contast to:
"White tea may refer to... minimally processed leaves of the Camellia sinensis plant."
Since you pick the leaves before they are grown, you're pruning the tree and potentially reducing your crop. Which is why it was a drink of the nobility. Basically you're so rich you can afford to reduce your crop by (conjecture) 10% for a taste sensation, or pay someone else for the privilege.
I suspect we have so much of it now because 1) Republic of Tea basically went through every tea fad in the history of tea in a 15 year period, presumably to keep sales numbers up with novelty, and 2) it's likely that there is oversupply in the tea market, so white tea gives you another shot at a sale.
Unlike coffee, which gets one harvest per year (although some people are trying to bring coffee leaf tea into the group consciousness), it's typical to get at least 2 harvests of tea per year, 3 or more in a great year. Which I discovered when I noticed my dealer putting numbers and/or seasons on her tea. If they are regrowing that fast then white tea might not be that big of a burden.
He was also adamant about storing it in well sealed containers out of direct sunlight. I ended up throwing away a couple of containers because of this (although I've kept a couple that are just too beautiful to part with - I store my daily drinker in there since it doesn't need to keep as long). Also explains why my dealer uses mylar vacuum packs for anything over an ounce. No oxygen, no light.
"Total catechin content (TCC) for white teas ranged widely from 14.40 to 369.60 mg/g of dry plant material for water extracts and 47.16 to 163.94 mg/g for methanol extracts. TCC for green teas also ranged more than 10-fold, from 21.38 to 228.20 mg/g of dry plant material for water extracts and 32.23 to 141.24 mg/g for methanol extracts."
They pile up the steaming leaves from every cup they brew and the shop fills with the earthy caramel aroma of good tea.
Is this actually true? I've never heard of green tea having more caffeine than red tea, besides maybe gunpowder green tea, which retains more caffeine due to less breakage from being rolled up.
Certain tea varietals like Assamica have more caffeine than others.
Black teas are seen as high caffeine because they use Assamica varietals more than other types of tea.
Processing tea does remove caffeine. However I wouldn't be surprised if it also removed some of the neurochemicals that modulate caffeines effects.
So your results may vary.
L theanine I think may be some of both. The heating and drying processes also help define what kind of tea you get, and we know that some vitamins don't survive cooking all that well (famously, sailors and scurvy).
Turns out the French and Italians with all of their fancy wine glasses for different kinds of wine are not insane. Glass shape effects the timing of scent versus taste, and so lighter wines have a narrower glass to shorten the time. The heavier the red the wider the glass.
If the water used for the tea infusion is relatively alkaline (for example, due to limescale found in “hard” water), the colour of the tea will be darker and deeper.
However, once an acid such as a slice of lemon or lemon juice is added, tea changes colour because of an increase in acidity (reduction in pH) of the beverage itself. Lemon juice is quite strong as a food acid – a few drops are enough to alter the theaurbigins, resulting in a dramatic change in colour. Interestingly, theaflavins are not that affected by the change in acidity, and still retain their normal dark red colour.”
Source: https://theconversation.com/ive-always-wondered-why-does-lem...
There are also two different style pf pu'ers which have little to do with each other. The style you're talking about is shu pu'er, which is deliberately piled and made wet in order to trigger a sped up fermentation process. This is opposed to sheng pu'er, which is processed into bricks from very young, raw leaves called maocha, and is then aged for a number of years before it is drank. This results in a much slower and subtler fermentation process. The taste of shu and sheng are quite different.
I've never personally had an encounter with a bad batch of either shu or sheng pu'er, but the shu variant is more prone to this due to the process.
It's notable that pu'er is steeped at a (close to) 100 degrees celsius and the first one or two short steepings are discarded. This is to kill and wash off any microorganisms or dirt that may be present.
Darker, black tea is more oxidized, and because it is, it has a larger flavor profile, as opposed to the bitter, less oxidized Green tea.
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