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> Jews are or have been persecuted in all middle eastern countries.

Jews have been prosecuted on many parts of the world and on different timelines of history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews

They have also found refugee in Muslim community from Christian prosecution multiple times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Musl...

> Laws like these lower the probability of Jews becoming a minority in Israel.

It doesn't. The children still remain Isreali citizens. Which means this is an inconvenience to the spouse and a quite racist law.

> And the probability of them being persecuted provided they become a minority is zero?

History shows that their prosecution, demographics, and geography are not that related. Jews got prosecuted because they held significant wealth in a certain societies. It's a power/wealth grab in certain cases; and finding an easy scapegoat in other cases.

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>They have also found refugee in Muslim community from Christian prosecution multiple times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Musl...

Got some really lovely apologia for Islamic imperialism in that page:

>Jews under Islamic rule were given the status of dhimmi, along with certain other pre-Islamic religious groups.[1] Though second-class citizens,

Leaving what you consider Islamic imperialism aside, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how dhimmi status compared to how jews were treated in other parts of the world at that time.

Since dhimmi status extended into the 1800s, and even the 1900s in some areas, it compares pretty damn disfavorably to full emancipation and citizenship. Going back into earlier periods of history, I don't really care to tell you whether a Muslim boot or a Christian boot tastes better, since, being Jewish, I'd rather not have either one stamping on my face.

> Jews have been prosecuted on many parts of the world and on different timelines of history > They have also found refugee in Muslim community from Christian prosecution multiple times

Nevertheless persecution seems more likely now in the Middle East than in in non middle eastern countries. In any case, the fact that they have been persecuted by everyone wouldn't be an argument against them being less worried, on the contrary, they should be terrified then.

> It doesn't. The children still remain Isreali citizens. Which means this is an inconvenience to the spouse and a quite racist law.

Note I find this abhorrent, but inconveniencing mothers or possible future mothers does lower the probability of Jews becoming a minority. And yes, inconveniencing here is an euphemism.

> History shows that their prosecution, demographics, and geography are not that related. Jews got prosecuted because they held significant wealth in a certain societies. It's a power/wealth grab in certain cases; and finding an easy scapegoat in other cases.

You're making the case that Jews shouldn't allow impoverished migrants into their land, again, I don't see why this should diminish their concerns.

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