Twitter is almost useless now unless you login with an account (that requires a phone number). I'm not sure who the subset of Tor users are who are comfortable logging into a service such as Twitter?
i feel like websites like this, and archive.ph are a sign of the future web. very little or now javascript, very light and fast - it inspires me to want to build something again.
Or is zapper a separate add on?
i think a better solution is blocking cookies as another comment mentioned, but for me that seems to cause an infinite reload loop.
Guess I am gonna go for nitter in the future.
Also just realized there are one or two other services they could redirect (e.g. Medium -> scribe.rip). Will see if it's feasible for them to easily add...
twitter on Tor circumvents that censorship. giving twitter your phone number is irrelevant to that.
Tell that somebody that websites exists.
I don't think there is so essential information on Twitter that anyone would take the hassle to read it through Tor.
[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/01/wh...
Be careful out there friends!
if you're just trying to read information, like 99% of the people on twitter, then it's not really relevant. it's an unlikely hypothetical in the first place that twitter leaks those phone numbers, but no government is using phone numbers to hunt down consumers of information.
Until the country you're living in gets your phone number from Twitter...
But that gives me a weird feeling to be honest.
We need to be in an international military crisis in order that basic values of privacy prevail at home?
That does not speak well of our quiescent "western values"
It also doesn't speak ill of those values, it says nothing about the values. You're conflating two separate matters: the values, and the effort required to hold/protect them.
Liberty requires a persistent effort to maintain against politicians, malevolent actors generally, that lust after increased power (for themselves and frequently the state as well).
It makes sense that that would be a process of erosion and (hopefully) rejuvination across years, decades, generations, centuries - as the counter forces battle. If you're really fortunate you live in a system that makes it a lot more difficult for the power-seeking politicians to trample on your rights.
Just because something of value requires effort to keep or maintain, that doesn't debase its value or otherwise speak to how great or how little the value is. Very valuable things often require an enormous investment to acquire and keep over time. At all times entropy is trying to destroy well ordered systems (eg democratic, constitutional, rights-protecting governments), it takes a huge amount of resources just to forestall that and you can never stop investing into it for long.
It also takes an enormous investment of resources to maintain authoritarian, anti-rights systems. They can never stop using force to oppress the population, they have to constantly crush the spirit of the population. They have to divert human potential on a persistent basis toward destruction, oppression, violent actions against the citizenship, actions inspiring fear/terror/dread. They can never stop spewing propaganda meant to keep the population in check, docile, in fear, etc.
That systems require active effort and mental attention to maintain, tells you very little about whether they're good or bad, the same goes for values a person holds (which also require effort to maintain), or the values a culture of people broadly holds.
Politicians do not in general work to abolish democracy. The vast majority, in democratic countries, accepts and supports it. To just label them "malevolent actors" without even feeling the need to explain it is nihilistic cynicism: if all you ever do is scream at the top of your lung that someone is a corrupt scumbag, they will either adapt and become someone like that or quit.
> It also doesn't speak ill of those values
Well actually it does, at least in that it highlights them as inconsistent. Clearly my issue is that values prone to change according to circumstance are weaker, as generally one holds consistent values higher than fickle ones. However, your further points are interesting and deserve thought.
> You're conflating two separate matters, the values, and the effort required to hold/protect them.
Perhaps in a short, pithy comment I'm not taking time to distinguish the values (which I love and live by, and believe most of my countrymen uphold) and the laziness by which some fail to consistently and robustly stand up for them.
> Liberty requires a persistent effort to maintain against politicians, malevolent actors generally
Absolutely, and would you agree that we've slipped dreadfully in that duty in recent years?
> Just because something of value requires effort to keep or maintain, that doesn't debase its value or otherwise speak or how great or how little the value is.
I am glad you think that, and we agree. I am not sure if you thought I said otherwise?
> Very valuable things often require an enormous investment to acquire and keep over time.
Like previous wars in which my family have fought at great cost.
> At all times entropy is trying to destroy well ordered systems
No. Sorry. That's too simplistic a take. I'm not talking about the constant gardening required to maintain structures of value, I am alluding to the malevolent domestic forces who would sell our hard won freedom, democracy and liberal values down the swanny for their own aggrandisement and profit when it suits them, and sing a different song when virtue signalling calls.
Let me try to be clearer what I am attacking here. It is sloppy and selective values. It is a laziness that lies somewhere between "sworn enemies unite against a common foe", and a prejudiced framing effect.
We're all very happy to cheer on Tor, VPNs or other instruments that circumvent tyranny, so long as it's not _our_ tyranny. All of us have benefited hugely from the freedoms immanent therein. We built these tools (US Navy), and the internet itself (DARPA), in pursuit of spreading the same values that we no longer have the stomach to robustly defend here.
Yet when a tyrant goes crazy in Overthereistan we're all sweetness and light and our digital "doors are always open for freedom". Those double standards are not a good look.
I need more time to think about it, but maybe what irks me here is simple hypocrisy.
Pretty much, yes. The US benefitted hugely from defining itself in opposition to the Soviet bloc during the Cold War. It's a major countervailing force to growing to resemble your opponent.
Arguably, the US hasn't really figured out how to effectively define itself in opposition to China, given how liberally China has been copying parts of the US economic playbook (ie. "Capitalism with Chinese characteristics"), which itself is a trick the Soviets never managed.
If most Tor traffic to your service is abuse where it may be worthwhile to block it completely, then a catastrophic event that gets more honest people using Tor may make it worthwhile to unblock it.
The pattern of "not having provided a phone number" perhaps?
I tried to contact the support, but they never responded.
[0] different accounts, based on different interests
Ok, let's try it with the "Twitter privacy policy inquiries" form (while logged in). Nope, can't submit anything, because of the suspension. So why not have some fun? Just sent a GDPR request via the "suspension appeal" form. Why? For the lulz and to have some legal leverage.
Not even five minutes passed and I got a email. My account is not suspended anymore... WTF twitter?
As much as I despise Twitter, I'd much rather that they exclusively know my identity than both they and the regime. This isn't to say that I agree with Twitter requiring phone numbers.