The SE2 absolutely requires a case, too. The glass exterior is far too slippery. The rounded edges make a firm grip even more uncertain. The protruding camera makes a case required as well if you don’t want to be mildly annoyed every time you put it on a table face up.

If the thing is built to require a case that would increase its thickness by the amount of the camera protrusion, why not just make it that thick to begin with.

I really pine for a flat back (despite any thickness that would add), square edges, and a back material with a higher index of friction. The SE1 frame was like this.

Good phone otherwise though, fast, battery ok if you charge regularly, etc.

Remove apps you don't use. Turn off any system location data settings you don't need. Don't use high brightness on the display. Turn off cellular data for any apps that don't need it. Don't have email set to check on a fixed interval. Keep an eye on app battery usage and stop using apps that use significant amounts in the background. If your area has weak cellular, get a microcell or turn off cellular data at home using an automation.

Agreed, hate the battery life in my SE 2020.

Currently thinking about getting the 13 mini but I love TouchID too much so it's really a debate between TouchID or better battery life, ugh...

My SE suffers, too. I find myself having to charge it twice a day — overnight, and then a top up at work.

uggh the battery life is terrible on the SE 2020!!!!! Yet im still going to get the 2022 one (Touch ID).