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> We are literally sacrificing their country and encouraging suicide. This. is. just. wrong!

what on earth? Who is we? Policy that pisses Russia off I can take blame for, but Americans sacrificing Ukrainians? I really just cannot parse how you lay guilt at our feet for Ukrainians’ propensity for defending their sovereignty from invaders.

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do you not understand how pissing Russia off leads to sacrificing Ukrainian lives, or are you choosing not to?

It can be America’s fault for antagonizing Russia, while it is Russia’s fault for shelling college dorms. If this is cognitive dissonance so be it.

If you are fine with the claim America goaded Russia into war, I don't see how you can then say America doesn't have blood on its hands. Clearly both would be culpable under the premise, regardless of who deserves what share of blame.

No. Letting Russia do with foreign democracies leads to war like this. Appeasing dictators doesn't work.

Ukraine is far from a democracy. Far from it. Look deeper than this. This isn't a Chamberlain moment.

> do you not understand how pissing Russia off leads to sacrificing Ukrainian lives,

Russia has been literally inventing pretexts for this action and keeps inventing new ones. No one's outside action “pissing them off” (in any immediate sense) is relevant here. It's driven more by economic gain and national greatness ideology than as a response to any immediate action or inaction of outside actors.

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