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Comment by CamperBob2 | Hacker News Reader

Woz to HP management: "Hey, I know we already sell computers, want to have a look at this one? If not, can I sell it myself?"

HP to Woz: "Sure, go for it, good luck."

Apple to their own employees: "Uh, let's see here.... how about 'No.' Does 'No' work? Good, then we'll go with 'No.'"

Gotta love the Valley. You either flame out early, or you live long enough to become the face on the telescreen.

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To be fair, the modern Apple is all Steve Jobs and Jobs always had this mentality that you are bashing. Seems like any Wozniak related mentality left the building when they dumped Apple II. And well can you really argue with the results? Apple was near bankruptcy trying to compete on the same plane as other personal computers.

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean.

It's a reference to Apple's 1984 commercial

They have not only become exactly what they fought against, they've refined it to perfection.

But it is a non-sequitur because Apple hasn't let any world changing tech developed by there employees to be spun out with no financial interest.

Yeah, and that's the idea behind the complaint. After getting their start thanks in part to HP's generosity, Apple's management tries to do everything possible to make sure the same thing doesn't happen at their company. It's hypocrisy in action.

Ooooo yes that makes sense

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

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