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30% of Ukraine is Russians. The border conflict is deeply rooted and unavoidable, just like with India and Pakistan.

Russian speaking Ukrainians are not the same as Russians.

As one of them, I 100% agree.

Neither are Bangla speaking Indians or Muslim Indians, but nonetheless this sort of thing is an extremely common basis for regional conflict that has nothing to do with anyone else.

Be cautious not to fall for propaganda. From both sides.

I've read conflicting statements about how Russian speaking Ukrainians are treated in Ukraine but it's also not obvious to me why it should be so much worse in Donbass versus the rest of Ukraine.

Just because there is a different language doesn't mean that there is automatically a cultural divide.

There are many countries that have similar conditions, minorities outside theyr borders, historical claims but when we entered EU and NATO we all had to make peace with our neighbors and give up or old grudges, I hope the young Russian generation would prefer to enter EU then reviewing some old empire.

The notion that entering the EU is some magic thing that will make those go away is incredibly naive. I think more likely is the EU ceasing to existing within the next 50 years as the US continues its withdrawal from the world.

There are many factors that make it so the new generations are more connected and emphasize better. EU membership makes it possible for students to study in different places and learn more, from my experience younger generations are less racist/xenophobic/nationalistic. It will take time to fix the issue but it things improve and with less Russian propaganda and dirty money in our politics it will improve even faster.

Does that go for the the Baltic states as well where 25% are Russian speakers.

By your reasoning 95% of America is English. This conflict was totally avoidable.

If some great of English people think they’re different enough from some other group of English people to want to be a separate country, that’s a regional conflict that doesn’t warrant the involvement of anyone else. Same as Ireland separating from Britain or Bangladesh separating from Pakistan or India/Pakistan border disputes.

By his reasoning, 18% of the US is hispanic and we should expect to be at war with Mexico.

We did go to war with Mexico and took a bunch of their land. And if our military power wasn’t so overwhelmingly superior we absolutely would have border conflicts with Mexico.

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