Map of Surnames in Europe
surnamemap.eu
surnamemap.eu
Yup. I was like, "this is a very oldschool site, super-essential, bare styling..." I guess all that whitespace is covered in ads for you, lol.
Oh. I just wasn't on the page long enough to see just how many ads were loaded, wow!!
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That's a rather humane amount and the only one that's really intrusive is the one all the way on the top, the scrolling banner can even be minimized to remove it, which leaves a total of 2 ads on the site, at least for me on Chrome.
Gave it a try on my iPhone's Safari; The same 3 ads like on desktop Chrome, but there's two extra ones all the way at the bottom of the page.
I have it set to maximum ad rate, and just ignore them mostly. They are sort of intrusive, but also not really. Depends on what you are doing. I've had them pop up in the middle of working on some word file or excel sheet; but I also get my discord notifications the same way as well...
They don't interrupt gameplay though... usually? Depends on if you have a browser open while playing something in windowed mode I think. At that point you might get one or two popping through due to the browser being open. That sort of thing.
Again, seems like a fair compromise to me. People onboard with BAT get paid one way or the other, and I get to deal with less ads overall. (Seriously, it's a chasm of epic proportions the comparison between before and after.)
Youtube works fine, most websites work fine, and if ever one doesn't want to play nice; you either find something else or just turn off Brave shield temporarily. I've had to do this from time to time with banking for instance, since it was blocking something related to the banks log in process. lol. So yeah, it's not perfect by any means. But it's a far cry better than the others so far in my opinion.
And for those who may want to reply with something about how X browser is worse or better than Brave; that's nice but honestly at this point I don't really care anymore. I have Firefox on standby for those few situations where chromium based browsers just don't want to work, and guess what, that's basically all of them now; Brave included.
So far, this combo has fared me pretty well. If I could get something that does what Brave does even better without the crypto stuff included, I probably would use it instead. But that's probably going to end up being a heavily modified version of Firefox or Chromium somehow; and thus my earlier point about being 'good enough'.
> Just like how none here have a legitimate reason to downvote something that is just my personal preference and opinion based on usage.
Please read the guidelines. Crabbing about downvotes is on there.
> (Seriously people... be better than redditors.)
Please read the guidelines. Calling this reddit is on there.
> P.S. Who ever flagged my comment... grow up. There is no possible way I am breaking any rules right now. Not that I am immediately aware of at least.
Bottom left corner of the page. You're welcome.
Saying 'be better than' shouldn't be breaking any rules in regards to 'calling this reddit'.
I'm merely making a point that I've seen similar actions performed by redditors, and that I expect better. Is that really so terrible? If you think it is, you need to grow up and come to understand how reality actually works friend. Just because you don't like something someone is saying, doesn't make them wrong to say it. Not always at least.
For instance, if you are actually right to say what you said, and you see me as annoyed or angry for it being that way; are you wrong for having said it?
It's the same thing from my angle. We just have different views on what is acceptable in society, digital or analog as it were. I think it's acceptable to call people out for acting like deplorables. You think it's acceptable to call people for acting how you figure is deplorable. So we aren't really all that different...
I just stand by my opinion, because its correct; like it or not.
I mean for pete's sake... the website doesn't even have downvote arrows (that I can see at least) and yet some of you are still downvoting... lol... Just like Redditors.
Check mate.
Arguing with somebody who's patiently explaining why you got flagged isn't productive. I didn't flag or downvote your dead comment, but for the record, I would have if it wasn't already dead. I'd downvote the comment I'm replying to, but cool feature, you don't get to downvote direct replies.
And, downvotes are for quiet disagreement. Unpopular opinions go grey. Moderation keeps the site more pleasant than other news aggregators. Greying out unpopular opinions does seem to quell the flame wars a bit. You'll get used to it. Nobody owes you a fight. After all, that's what reddit is for.
And again, just because you think you are correct Klyrs, doesn't mean you are. Even if the admins/moderators agree with you, because their own logic may well be flawed too.
Of course this applies equally to me, but again... making inference of ones actions resembling the distasteful actions of others, should never be 'not allowed'. Such thinking enables terrible people to be terrible, and shouldn't be tolerated.
Finally, I know that nobody owes me a fight. This is why I say I am not arguing with you. I am merely making my opinion clear. If you see this as a fight, that's entirely on you.
You have a good day now.
In other words, what rules exactly do you think this post violated, and why should the submitter be penalized? For posting a site with ads?
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got curious enough to turn off my adblocker: i was presented with TWO ads on desktop
i think you overloaded the term overloaded.
though they are huge on mobile.. and appear to be subleased or something. also there appears to be another ad element below the "(C)" line on mobile which is missing on desktop
Overloaded? There's two ads per page, and occasionally one when I click a map, and they're not even in the way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surname
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apellido#Origen_de_los_apellid...
A bit of googling gives me the explanation of "ferreira" being an old word for "iron mine", which to be honest is coherent with modern portuguese forms like "pedreira", toponymics ("ferreira" is a common place name), and the way names come about (João da Ferreira would own or work in the iron mine, or just come from one of the villages where there was an iron mine).
BTW, the theory I've heard is that this surname prevails due to survivorship bias, in countries that were constantly at war and the male population was being decimated, the smiths had to stay back home manufacturing weapons (same logic applies for "miller" and "tailor" and "mayor", all very common last names in large parts of Europe).
That means that people like me have to keep record of our real names.
Also curious that databases have been one step backwards, in Spain Catholic churches kept record of all the babies born in their towns with correct spelling and that is lost now with modern technologies.
This usually presents a problem online, and I've sometimes considered changing my last name because of that. I had never thought about the fact that this must be even harder for French and Spanish speakers, with the high amount of accents compared to Umlauts and the "sharp s" in German.
I found this to be the opposite.
My church record contains a hispanicized version of my name, whereas the government has the proper one. Reason given was that the church wouldn't admit certain regional spellings.
Also, acute accents have been recorded in the census databases since forever, at least in Spain.
Also, TIL: "Ficken" (=to f...k) seems to be a (rare) surname in the northern parts of Lower Saxony.
Eg. Italy has only been a single state since the 1860s, and regional languages can surface a lot of differences. I entered my mom's southern Italian maiden name and got pretty high correlation to places where her dad's family had ties...
If you search my surname (Sielicki) you can see how there was a resettlement between the lands lost on the east and gained in the west after WWII.
One time someone from the USA contacted me on Facebook because he has the same surname, to see if we were related. We weren't, but his great-grandparents were from my hometown and emigrated to the USA around 1900 or so (before WW I, anyway).
Fun fact, in 1998, I did an internship at a local hi-fi shop and met a guy who actually had the exact same name as my father. But wait, there's more: He also was in the same line of work as my father. He did not look anything like my father, fortunately, that would have freaked my out in a big way.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180404-do-our-names-p...
Of course, they might be a lot more insurance agents with my surname, but I wouldn't know one way or the other. Also, I like weird coincidences, so I'm rather biased.
That doesn't mean you're wrong, though. I just don't have enough data to support your idea.
e.g. My ancestor David Wood had the family tee-name "King":
A friend of my mother's has to twin sons who married two women who had not only the same first name but also worked at the same company. Both ladies took their husbands' names, so they both had the same names. I imagine it must have been both funny and confusing.
When I last worked as a sysadmin, our ERP software used the name as a primary key for employees, so the idea of having two employees with the same name drives me a little bit crazy. (Even worse, though, it did not use FOREIGN KEY constraints but TRIGGERs. I am not sure about performance implications, but from an aesthetical perspective, this is just wrong.)
As someone with a common first name and common surname, this drives me bananas.
I still get emails from my graduate university to email: first.last@uni.edu meant for some undergraduate in a sea of 50k students, and have to reply that I've had that email for 20 years and they have the wrong person with a very common name.
Still, I feel for you. My primary concern, though, was that it made life more complicated for me. But email adresses were separate from ERP user names, and we did not have two employees with the same name, so first.last@company.com was good enough for our purposes.
For those interested, depending on where you live, you can access Ancestry.com through the Public Library for free. In Ottawa, that was case, although as of Jan. 1, 2022, you have to go in person. Through there, you can search by name or even place of origin, and you can see the immigration records. May of which even have the photos! I noted some people that went to Brazil and could see the entire person and his family. I'm sure many people don't know that.
I was able to see my Grandfather's record to Canada in 1925 New Brunswick, and my Great Uncle's record in 1911 to Omaha, Nebraska. I'm also told my Great Grandfather came to the US in 1901, but I have been unable to track his record, because after having manually reviewed 1000+ records, I can tell you with confidence that spelling errors are rampant.
You had names change from say Smith, to Sally, and you can see the scratches as the records were modified. It's hilarious! Also, they even misspell the names in the same record. So searching is very, very hard, and instead you have to put in a broad search, like city (which can also be misspelled), and then manually look through the records. The only thing that I can say that is pretty accurate is the year. So that should be your starting point.
Good luck!
I don't have any numbers, but I wouldn't say there was a lot, because European cities were pretty established, so hard to start a new life there. But I do know that people from my Mom's village were doing trades with Europeans, and my Great Great Grandmother, was called Marianna and my Great Aunt was called Juliette. They also could speak French in the early 1900s, well before WW1 or WW2. Many people think that French was introduced after WW2 during the French Mandate, but Lebanese have been travelling overseas for a long time, and had ties to many countries. I think I read somewhere that even going back to 1600s they had ties to France.
On the other hand, there are also ties to Greece from the Orthodox side that date back > 1500 years.
But getting back to Europe, I would say mass migration were popular to South America, especially Brazil (from my Dad's village, many people went there, in addition to the US, and North America. I even met a Lebanese friend from Curaçao, and when I was at his house, they didn't speak Lebanese, they spoke Papiamento! Basically, they adapt and learn whatever language is needed. Remember, Lebanon was once a Roman Province (although Latin wasn't spoke everywhere), and before Greek language was prevalent, and before that, Syriac (western aramaic). In the year 600, Arabic started moving in. So having to learn new languages is not new in our history.
So far, what I've done is take my Dad's stories, and try to link them to actual records, and so far he's been right! He loves history, and my mom is a walking encyclopedia of family names. They know the villages the names come from.
Oh, I even found graves listed in the US from early 1800s with the name Khouri, and it was of a soldier. I suck at US history, so whatever war was back then, there was a Lebanese person there.
I was able to find some of my ancestors who came to the US from those records. People usually came by ship and New York City was one of the main points of entries to the US.
So as you can see, I would never have guessed it, and we found it by manually searching by timeline for anyone from "Lebanon", or "Syria", or even "Turkey", as data entry was usually done by just a person that may have never heard of that language, and just "guessed". Remember, IDs are a modern invention, so back then, it was not standardized.
https://www.surnamemap.eu/netherlands/index.php?sur=van+der+...
https://www.cbgfamilienamen.nl/nfb/detail_naam.php?gba_lcnaa...
EDIT: actually, it works if I use "vd Zwan", which is fine by itself, but that contradicts the instructions on top of the page:
https://www.surnamemap.eu/netherlands/nl/index.php?sur=vd+zw...
Some nice use w.r.t. social mobility : https://www.amazon.fr/Son-Also-Rises-Surnames-Mobility-ebook...
A good API to work with : https://namsor.app/
I don't see any means of seeing names without actually entering anything. If the site was intended to be used for educational purposes, it would at least show a list of common names by default.
We will soon no longer need to fight over ethnicity and race, because we will all be the same muddled and meaningless mass where the Ministry of Truth tells us that today the Italians are equally Indians, as Nigerians are Swedes.
The process is already quite advanced in the USA, where unique cultures, dialects, histories, cuisine, traditions, etc. that existed until rather recently, have been utterly shattered and deracinated and polluted through homogenization and corporatization of society, not to mention both sent into the memory hole and been rewritten a few times by now.
To see an even more extreme example of what the outcome of all this "globalization" and fraudulent "diversity" will be is to look to the ancestors of blacks in America that have suffering from the effects of being captured in war in Africa, sold into slavery, mixed together and torn apart socially, and shipped across an ocean where they were then traded and mixed and muddled wantonly just like "diversity" intends to do. They suffer from an acute absence and intentional destruction of what little culture and society they had. That is what the oligarchs of today have in store for all of us regular folks just like the oligarch plantation owners of the past perpetrated on humanity.
And don't make the mistake if you think "white people" deserve the atrocity of "diversity" that has targeted them up to this point, it will invariably come for you and your culture and your society too, only there will be no one left and no moral argument to defend your culture then.
Nearly every language and religion that have ever existed are now extinct. You don't get Italians, Indians, or Nigerians unless that happens in the first place.
Here are some more facts that might melt your mind:
- Until very recently, there were no Spanish speakers in the Americas.
- Ancient "European" admixtures have been found in modern-day China.
- 50,000 years ago, the inhabitants of the British Isles had dark skin and light hair like Melanesians.
I don't think there are that many people called like cities and also they don't all live in those cities.
And I don't live (or haven't lived) in any of them.
Also the bloat-free implementation. Why can't all websites be like this?
Only if you have a blocker that deals with the interstitial ads…
It looks like if you query it directly on the map view here: https://www.surnamemap.eu/unitedkingdom/index.php
Then that shows you the "Places" count from the rankings list here: https://www.surnamemap.eu/unitedkingdom/most_common_surnames...
Should be good for others who don't have a very common surname and didn't find it in the (maximum) 10 pages of results.
I also searched for "Monteverdi" out of curiosity and the largest cluster bearing that name are in Lombardy centred around Cremona, which was indeed where the famous composer was born four and a half centuries ago.
Would love to know more about how it's done: What is the source of those mapping between names and geo locations? Public phone books to get the address and then some reverse geo-coding?
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/...
[1] https://antonomase.fr/fi/mazieres_bms_names.pdf you'll find the references to some of these examples.
Do you see any (visible or hidden) form input for card number, expiry date and CVV2?
* my last 3 houses * my sisters uni locations (quite distinctive due to the campus location) * my family home * my dads home (post-divorce)
Our surname is uncommon and I know for a fact I'm the only one in my county, my dad in his, and my sister was the only one ever at her uni. Of course there could be others I don't know in these towns, but when we are talking <30 locations total and I know people at each of them and my immediate family accounts for nearly a third of locations...
Anyway, point being it was really neat to see my family name still in that very specific area, despite it being a name that would automatically stand out even today as "not from around here."
Started looking av UK and tried a few I could think of. I'm from Sweden so I went for the obvious ones like Smith, Black, White and then just for laughs continued with colors (oops, that was UK so colours, i suppose). Went with Red, Blue and so on, was surprised by how many Pinks there were but then hit "gold" (1861 places) with Magenta, one place!
Romania has none. The rest all seem to have some in them. Some more than others.
UK though. lol... map turn red.
Edit: I'm in Canada for context.
I've had to do something similar of sorts in tracking my family tree in the past. Long story short is this: Last names change, but bloodlines don't.
I found mine own, by having a relatively-uncommon US last name, and then being born in a European country where no one else has that name.
Basically just looks like a population map. My surname isn't especially common, but it is quite popular as a first name. So, there might be a high chance chance that a lot of displayed matches are false positives due to first names misinterpreted as surnames.
Without a per-capita adjustment, this is near-meaningless.
also, I'm not seeing any ads using the Vivaldi browser.
Currently it's just highlighting big cities for any surname I could think of.
It has regional heat maps, but I prefer the one provided by surnamemap.eu It seems more granular and more comprehensive (my mother's maiden name is rare and it shows up on surnamemap.eu, but does not on the site that I linked to).
I've actually used the surnamemap.eu site for maaaybe 10+ years. However, I don't know if it's updated, and if so, how frequently it's updated.
Names are concentrated in cities, well we knew that. Would be nice to somehow normalise a bit for pop. density.
It's really interesting to see how regional some names are.
Tried my name in France with/without the accent.
Seems weird for a site related to Europe.
As the numbers are absolute, these maps are basically influenced by population densities.
(And for first names, there’s https://www.meertens.knaw.nl/nvb/english)