People need to be a little less naive and skip conversations like this. There’s a 40 mile (65km) convoy heading for the capital of Ukraine. A lot of Ukrainians are about to die. Rather than complaining about how Russia is using 21st century technology from the West, perhaps discussing real solutions would be more beneficial?
Meanwhile, you're suggesting "This does nothing" when in fact, it's a legitimate avenue because, to use your specific quote, "all is fair in love and war".
On reflection, I'm completely flummoxed why you would suggest this has no potential. In fact, it seems to be the exact opposite, and quite interesting that these pages are being taken down nearly as quickly as they're posted here. These things taken together suggest that this idea is perceived as dangerous to someone
“…perhaps discussing real solutions would be more beneficial?”
Maybe we come up with nothing but tens of thousands of lives could be saved if we think of something.
A week from now the world is going to wish it had done more.
Tens of thousands of Ukrainians will be dead within a week.
You’re the one that came in complaining about how nothing is being done and offering a suggestion of… talking, which is what is already happening.
When people rightfully pointed this out to you, you suddenly involved “we”. You’re the one that has instigated this meta-discussion, and you just don’t like that people called you out on it.
I’ll let you guys get back to saying how bad the Russians are for using Google maps. Forget I even brought up the brainstorming idea.
Quite honestly I should have know people would go with “you first”. But when I go with “me first” people spend the entire time talking about how it’s a bad idea, missing the point completely
A lot of people here probably don’t even remember the Cold War.
It’s all about to get pretty real.
Considering all the people who are going to die, I had to try.
At best, it's yelling from the sidelines that nothing is getting done and everyone should feel bad.
(That is to say, probably not competent at it, which is better than "definitely not")
Also, you can bet concrete actionable suggestions made here will bubble up to silicon valley execs by the morning.
Cool, can’t wait to see the thread you start discussing these important things.
Or are you saying someone else should solve this for you?
Nothing nuclear happened during the war with soviets in Vietnam, Korea, etc., or with Russians in Syria. RF is much weaker than USSR.
It is not.
> Nothing nuclear happened during the war with soviets in Vietnam, Korea, etc., or with Russians in Syria. RF is much weaker than USSR.
You don’t need much power to fuck up the planet. A single thermonuclear bomb would suffice and Russia, however weak, has thousands of those.
The Chinese did not have nuclear weapons when the US fought them in the Korean War. Neither the Chinese nor the Soviets were (officially) involved in the Vietnam War. The US and Russia have danced around very carefully in Syria; the only direct conflict I know of involved Russian "mercenaries". In none of those cases did the Soviets or the Russians signal that they would use nuclear weapons; likewise, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was given covert military support by the US, but there was no direct conflict.
NATO operations in Ukraine carry a very large risk of accidental escalation, in addition to Putin's threats.
> The US and Russia have danced around very carefully in Syria; the only direct conflict I know of involved Russian "mercenaries".
Turkey shot Russian airplane.
> NATO operations in Ukraine carry a very large risk of accidental escalation, in addition to Putin's threats.
I'm sorry to inform you, but war between two nuclear nations has much larger risk of escalation when NATO will play the role of coward.
Even if some scientists could technically build a bomb, the hard part with nuclear arsenal is not the bomb itself but the launching device.
If we were in Kyiv right now it could be different, but maybe not. Actually, the Russian invasion has been very low intensity so far and to be frank, if not for the nonstop calls for more action from warmongers on the internet, I would still believe we are still well within the range of peace negociations.
I'm conscious how naive this sounds, but after all the Putins and the Bushs can only go to war when their people are filled with enough hatred, that's the first ammo that's ever manufactured.