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Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. The sooner they understand this, the more country remaining they will have when this will end

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When is the world going to come down on us western passport holders? It’s no coincidence we have the standard of life we do, we took it from the marginalized and the weak over the past centuries

don’t understand why comments like these are seen on hn,

is every american responsible for the countless deaths the US and their profitable war machine caused?

how about anyone living in [1]?

I safely bet the majority of people on this planet would prefer money spent on conflicts be invested in research, development, health and education.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_confli...

By this reasoning, American citizens are responsible for the murder of millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan .. Yemen.

I mean, fair game.

Why are Russian citizens without passports any less responsible?

In Russia (as well as Ukraine, Belarus and maybe some others) passport is the name of internal ID. Everyone gets it.

Passport used to travel is called foreign passport.

> Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict.

How, exactly?

To take action to end it. We are in "unstoppable force vs immovable object" situation. Putin does not have an option to lose. We don't have an option to lose the country once again. These things historically are only resolved by genocide and mass population displacement. Alternative is removing a single person from power.

Nazi Germany wasn't stopped by any of those.

Nazi Germany did not have VPNs. Information is there, so far. It's a personal decision to look at it or not.

And for that the German people was held responsible.

This doesn’t answer my question: how is every Russian passport holder responsible for this conflict?

Responsibility is a very precisely defined concept: how are they all responsible?

> how is every Russian passport holder responsible for this conflict?

By not having removed Putler from power.

So, every Russian citizen is responsible of that? Are they also responsible of not having solved world hunger or of not having cured cancer yet?

Geez.. this whole comment section is a terrible take.

By this logic 9/11 was fully justified.

It is really incredible to see these terrible takes being proliferated as if they don't mean more bloodshed, turmoil and suffering.

It seems the lesson of 9/11 was not learned, and there will simply be more events just like it until Americans understand, they do not have the exceptional moral authority to get away with crimes against humanity and war crimes, if they're not willing to grant those same 'rights' to other nation states too.

Oh wait, they do grant those 'rights' to other nation states, its just a matter of whether those states have the moolah to keep American military industrial complex partners in caviar ..

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