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India’s ‘Neutrality’ on the Ukraine Conflict Could Hurt It in the Long Run

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India has long been sucking on first, the USSR teat and latterly the Russian one. They have bought a lot of aircraft and other weapons so they are dependant on the spare parts supply. They also buy food. They are also a country that has been held back for decades by antique Soviet supply and services policies. Every business action is considered bad, because it employs people, and thus profits from the exploitation of their labor - it sounds laughable, but the layer upon layer of beurocracy about all aspects of business all want fees - BTW, they also want a cash head of the line payment, because there are 2000 people ahead of you in the permit queue, so you pay and he stamps the permit and on you go to the next hand out-stretched.... The relict socialism and the rampant graft is what has prevented India from repeating China's growth pattern and still does. Look at Korea's performance wrt India...

Neither Boris Johnson nor Biden is trust worthy.

India's neutral stance is commendable, there is a line open to Russia.

The west has done nothing material on the ground other than lightning up their embassies or hoisting Ukrainian flags.

The west has been using Ukraine as a proxy to engage in an unwinnable war with Russia.

Propping up a neo-nazi using street violence in a country where the west has no cultural affiliation was the beginning of the conflict.

After India abstained at the UNSC vote, the Ukrainian representative to the UN issued a threat, couched in the language of diplomacy, against the safety of Indian students in the country.[1] I guess Ukrainian border guards got his message:[2]

> Several Indian students fleeing Ukraine have alleged that they were harassed, beaten by the Ukrainian guards at the Poland border and were not allowed to cross over. In one of the videos shot during night time, a student wheeling his suitcase behind him is kicked by a guard in uniform. It is not clear if the student is Indian but several other students who have been camping at the Poland-Ukraine border have alleged that Indian students have been harassed.

> "Situation is getting worse day by day. What is happening is they are torturing us. Indian students are being tortured. They are not allowing us to cross over to Poland. Even women students are being harassed. They are being pulled by their hair and hit with rods. Some women students have suffered fractures and injuries," Mansi Chaudhary, an Indian student, told NDTV from her car in Ukraine.

> "Indian embassy diplomats are helping us with food and shelter. Border guards are not letting us cross. If someone tries to cross, they attack them with rods. They are punching them in the faces. Yesterday, they also opened fire," said Ms Chaudhary returning from the Ukraine-Poland border after three days.

"I am in the car and am going back to my hostel. Have been waiting for three days, but we were not allowed to cross over. We have been tortured like animals. They are letting their people to cross over but not us," said Ms Chaudhary, who praised the efforts of Indian embassy.

This also tracks with reports of black people being prevented from crossing into Poland. There is something very wrong going on here.[3]

[1] https://youtu.be/pGj7hg76Nbk?t=84

[2] Stopped, Assaulted At Ukraine Border, Say Some Indian Students (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/stopped-assaulted-at-ukraine...)

[3] Ukraine: Concerns mount as black people complain of racism while fleeing war zone (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-concerns-mount-...)

This 2018 Reuters article[1] alleges that although neo-nazis did not make significant inroads politically (at least based on the results of democratic elections), they may have developed connections within law enforcement. That pattern could fit with the articles and events you reference.

[1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20190321204944/https://www.reute...

> they may have developed connections within law enforcement.

This is far more dangerous. In the first case, at least, you know the elected person is a neo-Nazi.

>hit with rods ... they attack them with rods.

Police beating people with sticks is Indian thing, this smells of being invented by someone who never visited Europe.

> this smells of being invented by someone who never visited Europe.

This channel is known for its constant criticism of the current Indian government and its politics is diametrically opposite to mine. If they are claiming this, then there is every chance that it happened.

Then there are reports about black people being prevented from crossing. Even the Chinese embassy has asked its nationals to avoid all military and law enforcement and not identify as Chinese:[1]

> After some Chinese reported being targeted because of their nationality, the embassy also did an about-turn on its previous advice for citizens in Ukraine to display the Chinese flag on their cars if they had to go outside.

> The new advice was to refrain from identifying themselves or showing any signs that make them recognisable.

> The online comments and Beijing’s refusal to condemn Moscow’s actions have compounded problems for Chinese people in Ukraine.

> A Chinese student studying in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv, who did not want to be named, said she feared there might be anti-Chinese sentiment among the locals who had seen reports of these online comments.

There is definitely some kind of race thing going on here.

[1] Backlash in China over vulgar social media mocking of Ukraine conflict (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3168587/ba...)

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226125640/https://thediplom...

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