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Help Ukraine: resources, how to help without money, more

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76 pointschdaniel15 comments

I am allocating a month’s invoice to helping ukranian civilians (12k gbp). I am spreading it in before and after - right now sending baby food and clothes at the border, directly and via charities, and after that i will try and help with reconstruction funds in areas worst hit. I am thinking agricultural tools and anything to help them help themselves.

Is there any legitimate way to fund armament as well?

https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/

Was sent to me by a Ukrainian colleague that I would trust. Ideally you have to send using direct transfer I think. The details for that are on that same page.

savelife.in.ua, what a weird domain for a website that allows direct funding of a fighting army.

Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $174,000(FY19. Launcher device is 126k extra)

That money is likely to be used for immediate expenses of army like salaries, fuel sandbags and anything that can be useful in fighting. Javelins are provided by other countries for free.

This shouldn't be allowed, especially here.

Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.

Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly.

Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolous to me.

The bulk of it is governmental. For example, 300 javelin missiles were sent ($24M), and that's only part of one shipment of arms from the US.

I don't know how much the private funding will help. Maybe it will fill in the gaps for small items that have not been sent over.

"actively meddling in foreign conflicts"

Why is that a bad thing?

"also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do"

I do agree that it seems many countries are mostly just talk. It seems just sending arms shipments is all they're willing to do.

The countries of which many of us are taxpayers are actively funding their military.

Yes, there is. National Bank of Ukraine opened special fundraising account to support Ukrainian army.

https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...

After learning how much graft and corruption has reached from the USA to the Ukraine and back again, I'm sure I don't want to help. We don't have a single congress person whose kid isn't on some Ukrainian gas company board.

Help the civilians, don't help the military as it's only going to generate further violence and death. You won't make any difference in the conflict anyway.

If you really care about civilian's lives, you should hope for the invasion to end as quickly as possible, not to drag along in the cities streets for weeks. There is no point in dragging the resistance for long as Ukraine has no chance of winning and the guerrilla will hit civilians hard.

Appeasement prolongs suffering and death.

Violence is the last resort for peaceful nations to stop further, more brutal violence of others.

Russia is making it harder and harder, reducing available options to resolve that war.

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