Look, good for grandfather, you should be proud, but don't piss in people making rational decisions in a completely different situation.
False dichotomy.
Putting words in the other's mouth.
> everyone who doesn't want to fight in any war is a coward and is to be mocked
was putting words in my mouth.
Resist. Whether that involves a Kalashnikov, or simply shitting in a water supply, resist. I won't judge you if you don't. It's your internal critic that you're going to spend the rest of your life with.
Some people have strong values, that they're willing to risk their life for even a chance to preserve. Some people don't. But if you're not, for God's sake, don't spend your time trying to dissuade and condemn those who are.
I just meant that comparing this to how someone's grandfather fought the Nazis is BS, and the people who chose to not fight shouldn't be judged by that false comparison.
Some people chose not to put "their country" before their own lives, and that's fine with me.
The millions of people who have lived in the countries from Eastern Europe, all of which have been invaded by the Russians at the end of WWII, have learned that being ruled by the Russian government, either directly or indirectly through their servants that are installed as supposedly independent local governments is far worse than being ruled by any other elite.
Not only the Russian elites have always been greedier than other elites, but they were not content to steal your assets, they also forced you to say all the time that you are happy about it, which was even more annoying than being dispossessed.
When the difference is between your elected government and an invading regime that's well known for being violently oppressive even against their own people - yes. Also, the Ukrainian people can easily see the how life goes for people who stayed in DNR/LNR.
You either fight totalitarianism or flee it; accepting it is a really lousy option.
Everyone gets to decide how much they value the independence of their country for themselves. If Ukrainian choose to fight, so be it.
The Russians have murdered much more people in the Eastern European countries that they have occupied than the Nazis ever have. If the Nazis had not been defeated relatively quickly they might have killed much more, but as it happened, the victorious Russians had much more years available to kill everybody who was believed as able to oppose them. Totaled over all the Eastern Europe and the various minorities of Soviet Union, many millions of people, mostly those being the formerly well-educated professionals of the occupied countries, have been either killed immediately or imprisoned, and most have died during detention.
The only difference between the Nazis and the Russians has been that the Russians were more careful to hide many of their actions and as former allies of USA, unlike the Nazis, they have not been the subjects of so many movies or novels describing their crimes during WWII and during the first decades after WWII.
Nevertheless, unlike Germany, which has apologized publicly many times for what the Nazis have done, and which has paid consistent reparations for a part of the victims of the Nazis, neither Putin nor any other Russian leader has ever apologized for any past actions of Russia. Paying reparations would be even more unconceivable for the Russians, who continue to claim that they have "liberated" the people whom they have enslaved after WWII.
I have seen nothing in the public speeches of Putin that would indicate that he would ever behave in relation with an invaded territory differently than it was traditional for the Soviet Union leaders or for the earlier Russian tsars.
Until the man himself would say and act otherwise, in a credible way, the only rational assumption is that an invading Russia will behave like always in the past.
I don't think I would be willing to give my life to defend a country unless against a terrible evil like the Nazis.
Live out your life in a corrupt dictatorship with bad economy Flee Fight for a brighter future
Everyone has his own priorities and point of view but I think the only way a life is "thrown away" is if a person does nothing at all with it.