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Ukraine is in the middle of two "powers" and the proper role would be one of buffer. They could even benefit from that. Unfortunately, the Russian and the USA have both tried to take that part of the board for them and the Ukrainian population is split on their loyalties.

Russian, simply can't allow more of the board, specially one part so close, to be dominated by the opponent.

Anyone that think this conflict in terms of "good" or "bad" have been drinking the kool-aid.

My prediction: A repetition of Crimea. The Donbas will be incorporate to the Russian area of influence, but not the rest of Ukraine, some noises will be done by the West about sanctions or whatever and in five years nobody will remember. Hope to be right, because other scenarios are really scary.

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One country is attacked by neighborhooding country with history of expanding into neighborhooding countries.

> Russian, simply can't allow more of the board, specially one part so close, to be dominated by the opponent.

Russian in fact could allow that. Whether Ukraine joins Nato should be between Ukraine internal debate and Nato internal debate. That Ukraine has both opinions present does not excuse nor explain Russian war.

That's all very nice, but, unfortunately is not how the world works.

What about the Donbas region, do they have the right to decide in an internal debate?

Instead of trying to be pro-Russian or pro-West, Ukraine have lost a chance of become Switzerland and make a live getting presents from both sides. Now, I think, it's going to be split.

> Instead of trying to be pro-Russian or pro-West, Ukraine have lost a chance of become Switzerland and make a live getting presents from both sides. Now, I think, it's going to be split.

Bullshit. And yes, I am anti-Russian expansion. This is a threat to myself, my family, my friends and my kids, actually. I am very pro-western and very happy my home country managed to be nato member.

Stop paining equivalence between Russia and Nato now.

As everyone I have my own perspective, informed by my readings and experiences.

However, it was not my intention to upset you and I'm very sorry innocent people get caught in the middle of this.

> Ukraine is in the middle of two "powers" and the proper role would be one of buffer

You are aware that Ukraine was the buffer between nato and Russia, because the two actually touch in other places quite a lot? Also, "buffer" is not predestined mandatory role for any country. Buffer is not necessary at all.

There are so many levels of wrong with what you wrote here ...

> My prediction: A repetition of Crimea. The Donbas will be incorporate to the Russian area of influence, but not the rest of Ukraine, some noises will be done by the West about sanctions or whatever and in five years nobody will remember.

And in six years Putin will grab more land again, knowing that nobody will do more than "condemn" it because everyone is afraid of the other scenarios.

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