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Looks great - so much so that I assumed it would be for Apple devices only, so congratulations and thanks for the Linux support.

I'll try it in a bake-off with Obsidian, but the main down-side for me is "notes stored on our servers" - I'd happily sacrifice the collaboration features for a self-hosted option with my data kept as regular text files as much as possible.

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Obsidian is great, and if you're looking for affordable, preferably self-hosted, highly customizable Markdown note-taking it is almost certainly the better option.

We're trying to be a slightly different kind of app though, where syncing isn't something our users ever have to think about and where collaborating and sharing is as accessible and seamless as possible (among many other goals!)

And yes, that means we're probably (on the whole) a worse match for the highly technical/conscientious HN crowd, where the aforementioned selling points of an app like Obsidian are in higher demand. Also a shoutout to Logseq (as mentioned by others in this thread) which is also a great option if you're looking for that kind of app.

Can i export your data as markdown?

Unaffiliated but I noticed (not verbatim) "export to pdf or markdown, or use the api to export to other formats or services"

The documentation states, that you can export "all the cards in the current Noteboard as a ZIP of markdown files" [1]

So it looks like exporting is limited to a single "Noteboard".

Without bulk export (better sync) features of all documents, this service is a complete non-started for me.

[1] https://docs.supernotes.app/en/articles/3068672-exporting-pr...

The "Noteboard" is just the current view. If you're in the "Home" view that is a collection of all your cards, so exporting from there exports all of your cards in one go. We also have an API[1] that allows you to easily fetch the raw data (as JSON) directly if you want to export Supernotes-specific metadata that is not encapsulated in the Markdown.

[1] https://api.supernotes.app/docs/swagger

I haven't used obsidian, but have been using Logseq [1] (which a lot of people have mentioned to be similar) for over a year now and super happy with it.

The data is stored locally as md files, can be versioned using git which is a big plus for me. Also the workflowy-inspired zoomable bullet list is great to have for large outlines.

With the built in support for tags, image pasting, tasks, journaling, templates and static site publishing it just ticked every box I had out of the box, and I am yet to even start exploring its rich plugin ecosystem.

Oh, and its completely open source.

[1] https://logseq.com/

In the past year I've been on a journey of note-taking / personal knowledgebase:

  - Trillium Notes [0]
  - Joplin [1]
  - others I can't remember
  - Obsidian [2] 
  - Emacs/org-mode
  - Logseq [3]
  - and now back to Obsidian again

Logseq was really promising in concept - pulls a lot of cool concepts in from the others and supports org files. But I found it to be incredibly slow and laggy with my existing mixed org/markdown files. Unusably so, so I ditched it quickly.

Obsidian has come a long way from where it was a year ago in terms of community plugins. There's some crazy stuff you can do with plugins like obsidian-dataview [4], obsidian-itinerary [5], quickadd [6], obsidian-Kanban [7]. It's no Emacs in terms of customizability, but it's pretty damned close. And Obsidian doesn't have the random freezes and random "oops I accidentally deleted a huge chunk of nested notes" that org-mode constantly exposed me to. I'm loving Obsidian (again). As long as you don't mind JavaScript for plugins and closed source core app, it's a super-powerful and performant option worth checking out.

The biggest thing Obsidian lacks right now that SuperNotes 2 seems to offer is good sharing / collaboration between people - for me, I just want to be able to have shared notes with my partner, but sharing with a team would be great, too. I'm not the target audience for SuperNotes 2, but it is good to continue to see competition in this space - the innovation it drives is exciting.

  - [0] https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/
  - [1] https://joplinapp.org/
  - [2] https://obsidian.md/
  - [3] https://logseq.com/
  - [4] https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview/
  - [5] https://github.com/coddingtonbear/obsidian-itinerary
  - [6] https://github.com/chhoumann/quickadd
  - [7] https://github.com/mgmeyers/obsidian-kanban

Thanks for the plugin tips.

I also really like Admonition[1] to make styled blocks to format notes. Sliding panes(Andy Matushcak Mode)[2] makes the experience just more natural than windows that need to be resized, etc when switching context.

Found Admonition when learning about Zettelkasten via an efficient video by Artem Kirsanov[3]. Within 17 mins I got the system better than the scary 4 hour overkill vids out there.

[1] https://github.com/valentine195/obsidian-admonition [2] https://github.com/deathau/sliding-panes-obsidian [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ySG7xYgjY&list=PL7eDrfPCCa...

Obsidian Admonition looks nice - thanks for the mention. I really hate quoting in markdown and miss the org-mode syntax of just marking the start/end, rather than having to edit every single line. This looks like it pretty much solves my complaints.

And I'll check out sliding panes. It's fun for browsing Andy's website, but was skeptical I'd like it in my own Obsidian instance.

I go back and forth between normal windows and Andy but now with zettelkasten I think I'll stay with Andy as it allows to preview your networked notes in a linear manner.

Just peeked at dataview and I love it. Hope the overhead of creating the metadata in each note won't throw off my flow as I like to move at lightning speed (read chaotic).

Logseq used to be unbearably slow, especially when using a large md file. However one of the updates completely fixed all of my performance issues. I'd suggest giving it another try.

Unfortunately, I'm speaking from trying it last week.

I do have some large org files that may be causing problems for both it and Emacs/org-mode, though, so I'll give it another shot once I've converted those all into a more Markdown friendly mode.

I do love some of the concepts that it and org-mode have towards nesting of content, and that's one thing Obsidian doesn't really embrace in the same way.

Obsidian Personal is free and seems to fit your self-hosting needs better.

I already use Obsidian (paid version as I want to use it for work too, and to support the project). My interest in trying an alternative is mostly just curiosity.

Try out noteplan and turn off sync..

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