1. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/abfba1
Do you genuinely believe that Atlassian could be a significant polluter at the scale of AGL?
This article isn’t about Atlassian at all, feels like the wrong place to complain about JIRA.
I am not sure, where you got the impression, that my comment was supposed to be funny in any way. Maybe you are over-interpreting a little. It is rather supposed to express sadness about the state of things. I think it is our right to hint at such things, whenever an offender like Atlassian is mentioned. Their bad practices need to be exposed and talked about.
> Do you genuinely believe that Atlassian could be a significant polluter at the scale of AGL?
I never said anything about "on the scale of". Where did you read that? I am saying, that Atlassian is a big offender and energy waster through their bad software.
But they really aren’t. It’s companies like AGL that are the big (or perhaps mid-size) offenders.
Suggesting that Atlassian is a big offender in this context is simply ridiculous. They’re a submicroscopic offender.
Atlassian is a big offender in terms of page load times and energy consumption associated with that and therefore energy waster through their bad software. In the realms of how much energy you can waste with a bad website, they are probably somewhere close to crypto currency miners while loading any of their pages, since they give multiple cores a 100% usage at page load time.
Just because you put something into relation with something even bigger, it does not suddenly become no longer a problem or irrelevant. If we went by that methodology, we would never fix the tail of not-the-biggest offenders. We need to fix things on all ends. Offenders stay offenders, even when there are much bigger offenders. It is only right to also call them out for what they do and what I witness day by day. It is as well a hint at others, who also waste lots of energy with their bad websites. It is not only Atlassian. There are many examples of basically rendering a static page with a few words, but loading multiple seconds for that.
Confluence search for me is one of the worst offenders: takes forever to load and can't find anything I want. Confluence is where data goes to die.
Better to build an entirely new product from scratch.
We had bugzilla and a variety of others and they were pretty horrible back in the 00s. Then Jira came along and it was modern and fast (-ish), then I guess they followed the route of multi-b(m)illion clients that wanted X, and got it, at the cost of speed and simplicity for the rest of us.
Perhaps we're at another inflexion point for another better, faster, bug tracker (or maybe github's built in one has eaten that market). Just like IM, IRC -> YahooIM/MSN Msger -> Slack/Discord/Teams, or editors notepad/vim -> emacs/notepad++/sublime -> vs code.