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Just some suggestions for the connection part.

Using a phone is probably the first mistake. If you are going to use your home network you are better off using a machine you control and an operating system that is open source.

I suggest these steps: Step 1: Connect to a popular vpn. Step 2: Connect to tor Step 3: Get free vps or pay with cryto you trade for gift cards purchased or some other method Step 4: Connect to vps with desktop running. Use virtual desktop. Step 5: Use vpn. This time use vpn with best rep to be accepted as regular traffic. Step 6: Signup for services

Step 1 solves the k issue. Many people using that vpn will connect to tor

Step 4: Seems slow but at the virtual desktop level out things are fast from that machine to new hosts. Use scripts could help.

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Iirc phones will broadcast previously connected access point max addresses. I doubt gp truly understands what it takes to be anonymous (imo it’s probably impossible).

So what if they find that you used a phone?

They still had to somehow link your online identity to your phone. And how would they do that? The phone is simply a computer that you use, through VPNs, to send and reveive mail and post messages to groups etc. They’d have to approach ProtonMail, then your VPNs in order, and then get security footage from the place where you were accessing the VPN at that time. And then cross-reference your gait etc. to a database. Maybe in 10 years they would have such coordination, and we will need better tactics.

What’s far more interesting is what to do if VPNs are banned in a country. You can’t be using one there. You’d have to have set up anonymous hosting and port forward stuff yourself.

Again, it’s possible that all anonymous hosting, VPN etc. is shut down and requires KYC by say 2050. That is why you must bootstrap from what are valid but essentially “compromised* accounts now while you still can, and hope they are grandfathered into the new totalitarian surveillance system. Buying phones on craigslist is one example.

Another example is those eyes Anderton installs in Minority Report, but security in that movie is like a bad joke, IRL he’d be outed instantly by his gait, heart patterns via wifi and so on. In fact they didnt even change the access keys after he ran LMAO

>>Buying phones on craigslist is one example.

It seems that this would work for a while, but if we're trying to bootstrap well into the future, a shiny new phone of the hour Samsung S22 showing up new on the network only 15 years out in 2037 would stick out like a beacon, and that's assuming it would even connect to the then-current comms protocols.

This is nontrivial

You're going to call out someone for being uninformed,

but you can't find the "Don't automatically connect to this network" flag that stops a device from doing what you described?

Don't tell people what is and isn't possible unless you're sure.

Your opinion is purely speculation, and only true for people of your skillset.

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