‘Space cleaner’ satellite spotted grabbing and throwing away old satellite
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But I have to admit as a propaganda piece it was done quite well. Pull interested readers in letting them swallow the hook.
Then broaden the scope to tell the reader that other, more US friendly nations are currently either testing the concept or planning something in the future. While not pointing out that the US seemingly do not to have cleanup missions planned.
Then question your own propaganda in a not very believable manner but still in the end leave the reader doubting the intentions of the Chinese.
Mission accomplished.
The best part: Try to find on the site who is behind that publication. No imprint. Nothing about the editorial team. Nothing about the company.
I actually don't trust media outlets that don't tell who the are. But that might just be my German upbringing where media is being required by law to disclose at least the company and the editorial board/staff.
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Update for transparency reasons as separate part
Having read about the publication behind this site I admit that they seem to be one of the better structures in media all over the world.
I recommend reading about the reason why it was founded [0].
Still the piece per se irks me. But I give the the benefit of the doubt and would not call it propaganda anymore.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wire_%28India%29?wprov=sfl...
Did you miss that it's a republished DW article?
But I believe the less I care the less it impacts me directly. There is actually nothing I could do as there is not one viable political alternative promoting defunding DW.
I think it'd be cool AF if we built a space city on the moon that actually handled the majority of space mission builds and even launches. We'd still need to launch from here to get materials and people there, but once there ....astronauts could train etc....perhaps the building people live in could spin or something to give the guise of gravity, and everyone could wear waited outfits too, it'd also be a place for scientists to experiment w/ anti-gravity tech maybe...
I really think space mining should also be a thing, and would love to see drones that build more drones for mining, and building stuff as well as bigger and bigger telescopes further and further from earth and in places that are better blocked out by the Sun, like orbiting Saturn or something so maybe when it's facing the sun it refills it's battery and when it's in the dark zone it is taking photos...
When actual numbers were leaked about use of drones and "precision" bombing by the US, arguably the most competent, rigorously trained, elite military on the planet, directly answerable to elected leadership, the rate of "bystander" to "target" kills was 5 to 1. Biden bombed a car full of children during his Afghanistan debacle. Oops.
It's probably not a good idea for non space agency leaders, military or otherwise, to have tools that physically interact with stuff in space. There's not an institution on the planet competent and responsible enough to avoid unintended catastrophe once military conflict escalates to orbit.
> It's probably not a good idea for non space agency leaders, military or otherwise, to have tools that physically interact with stuff in space. There's not an institution on the planet competent and responsible enough to avoid unintended catastrophe once military conflict escalates to orbit.
I think the technological cat is out of the proverbial bag on this one.
I'm curious, what other non-destructive methods are there?
You can instead refuel it or attach a new maneuvering unit to revitalize its mission.
"China is providing mitigation against Kessler syndrome. Here's why this is Bad."
Anything can be weaponized or misused; it's a common framework for negative propaganda. "Our civilized technology, their barbaric weapons". It is also not a free pass from scrutiny.
COMPETES Act of 2022 - $500,000,000 towards propaganda
Domain is .in, you didn't have to open it.
I wonder why governments are concerned over military use with this technology. If anyone wanted to bring a satellite down, wouldn't it be easier to just blow it up with a projectile/hack it/jam it/laser it? The military option of developing a complicated satellite robot to push satellites off orbit sounds stupid.
IMHO, space is big + satellites are hard to track, if they're highly-maneuverable or designed to be stealthy = possibility of launching untracked microsatellites that couple with space assets and wait for activation
Critically, add in the fact that most space-based assets are likely several years, or even decades old, and designed to minimize mass, and I'd hazard almost no satellites have on-board sensors designed to detect approaching objects.
Consequently, the first signal you get is when your satellite goes dead or tracking telemetry shows it moving without command.
Which is vastly sneakier than a huge IR bloom from a known missile site for an anti-satellite missile launch (that also happens to look like an ICBM launch).
Edit: For precedent, Red Storm Rising (1986, Tom Clancy & Larry Bond, back when Clancy wrote more hard military thrillers and wasn't yet a name brand) discusses a then-current conflict between NATO and the USSR that features Soviet grappling satellites quietly taking out NATO space assets as part of a surprise first strike.
From what I've read, I understand it to be more of the opposite: there's nothing to hide behind in space, and NORAD and NASA track nearly every piece of debris in orbit, not to mention satellites. So it would be hard for an adversary to do anything like that sneakily, even if there might not be any countermeasures (unclassified ones, anyway). I'm no expert, of course.
Yanking a satellite out of orbit avoids such collateral damage. Any practical weapon would need a lot of deltaV but Ion drives plus solar panels could be enough.
Instead if you position a bunch of "service" and "maintenance" satellites that are conveniently in orbits near enemy satellites (in terms of delta-V) then basically get to prestage the entire event before war actually breaks out.
There are plenty of satellites that basically spend time "near" unfriendly nations satellites. This is mostly for counter-intelligence as far as I can tell.
To disable an enemy satellite quietly one theory I heard was to simply carry a can of black spray paint aboard, then use it to coat the enemy satellite when you want to disable it. Anything optical would be disabled immediately. The satellite would probably overheat because the reflective coating would be gone.
I imagine you could get some very extreme temperature differentials with a good paintball shot in the right location.
Also, there have been rumors that a number of ‘dead’ satellites are actually spy satellites using the ‘dead’ status as cover, which maybe this could make no longer tenable with some plausible deniability?
Once you're close enough to interact with a satellite, you can also visually inspect or even retrieve it, which might yield useful information.
If you can grab and deorbit a satellite, you can also grab it and steal it to learn its secrets.
But only on satellites.
https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/news/good-gold-are-satellites-co...
I highly doubt all satellites since 1957 used the same material, and further that it's that easy to find out what it is.
But I believe you, I bet that's a common foil they typically or even uniformly use for a lot of things.
The difference is that here McClaren wants to transfer heat via condution very efficiently. In space you can't do that because everything is in vacuum - condution is very inefficient. So the way you get heat in or out is via radiation, and that means the Sun is a problem. The films around satellites are designed to reflect sunlight. The gold in there is probably kapton, or something very similar. Polyimides were developed by DuPont in the 1950s and in the 60s they came up with Kapton which is now ubiquitous in electronics (flexible PCBs for example). Kapton was used on the Lunar Module (and other bits):
https://apollo11space.com/apollo-11-kapton-foil/
Some of the best-in-class films today are manufactured by a company called Dunmore. They made insulation layers for Hubble, Curiosity, JWST and some other high profile missions. All these companies do defense contracting so they probably make films for spy satellites as well.
Astronaut's helmet visor is another one.
If your video has a robotic voice I assume it's spam, worse the voice is so annoying that I won't stay around long enough to find out otherwise.
Increasing "enough" is subjective of course.
It could be that the creator doesn't feel confident recording themselves doing the voiceover, regardless of nationality.
Or they are recording the video in many different languages and it's easier/cheaper to get text translated than to find voice talent in multiple languages.
I am guessing - given that starship is planned to be able to go to mars - that there is enough fuel and power available that it'd be fairly trivial to just scoop up defunct satellites in the huge cargo hold and deorbit them safely for refurbishment/disposal on the ground. (After all they've shown they can rendevous with ISS etc so I am guessing this is largely the same approach to rendevous with a dead satellite) Guessing you could comfortably hold quite a few satellites inside a starship meaning one launch could collect a whole range of dead satellites?
Retrieving whole defunct satellites is possible but only one or two at a time because of the huge amount of fuel needed to match orbits with each one. And once you've grabbed one it takes even more fuel to de-orbit it (which you'll notice didn't happen here). Don't forget that every maneuver you make as a spacecraft has to use extra fuel just to haul all the fuel for every future maneuver you'll ever do, and that compounds for every lifetime maneuver.
It's worthwhile to dispose of old satellites so they don't collide and produce debris clouds that are basically impossible to clean forever, but it's not funded.
1) It takes a ton of fuel to change your orbit once you're in space, and space is _really_ big (even just the orbital ranges we're talking about). It's just not currently feasible for a ship like that to capture debris and then use _more_ fuel to bring it back down.
2) Relative velocities of some debris are so large (and they are so spread out) that it's not yet feasible to capture it and bring it back with any current approach.
Dead satellites are mostly dangerous for the scattered debris they _might_ become if something hits them/they bread up. So while bringing them back is important, it's not as immediate a danger as things that have already broken up.
Basically, we don't have any approach that would make a major difference, even if money was no object (which it is).
I would be very surprised if strategic DoD satellites didn't have some kind of close-in defense capability to ward off any vehicles sniffing about.
This shows China is ahead in the space race.
But, it's also starting from farther behind. But, it's also starting with more modern technology. But, it's also working under a command economy.
And that's not including US private space companies. Read: SpaceX.
https://essp.nasa.gov/earth-pathfinder-quests/projects/activ...
If we include space telescopes, missions on and around other planets, space weather monitoring, solar exploration, and such NASA appears to be ahead.
Saying "progressing at a fast rate than NASA" is just word games since they start from such a lower level and doesn't reflect the reality on the ground.
EDIT: I provided the above as supporting evidence not to start an argument.
Arecibo vs. FAST
China recently deployed their own Space Station and Mars Rover, etc...
Political and ideological biases aside, it's pretty obvious which space program has more vitality in the current decade. Both sides certainly have novel tech, but what about the bigger trends?
How is BeiDou evidence for what you claim?
> Arecibo vs. FAST
Lots of other scopes that have capabilities that neither A or F have.
> China recently deployed their own Space Station and Mars Rover, etc...
These aren't examples of them being ahead. They may, however, may be examples of them reaching parity.
China has something like >1000% as many people working in technical industry jobs as USA, and a massive trade surplus. The two economies are not even comparable. One prints the global reserve currency and smears it around in FIRE, the other makes things.