When I was in Cuba, the official maximum salary you could earn(e.g as a doctor or teacher or baseball player) was something like $20. People from the party earned more than $3000 through outside deals.

I had also been in Norway that people call socialist but is actually quite capitalistic.

Most socialists have an idealization of what collectivism "should be". They compare "real capitalism"(an implementation of capitalism in reality) against an ideal socialism that have never existed and never will on the real world.

It is only in their minds. Don't tell them about Venezuela or Cuba, China or URSS because they were not the real thing of course.

But they don't admit that Capitalism could also be ideal and perfect.