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Cool!

I've been using Google Cloud for personal projects and the company I work for for many years. I've yet to experience an outage that isn't our own fault.

I didn't have many support cases in those years. I vividly remember one case tho. I asked about some Kubernetes billing I got. Used the chat and immediately got someone who appeared to know what he was talking about. After some explaining I understood where the amount came from. Nevertheless he didn't let me go and made absolutely sure that I thoroughly understand how the pricing was structured and why I was billed this way (had something to do with another one of my projects also using Kubernetes).

My experience was also very good. I've accidentally racked up like 250 USD in charges, and after contacting support, I was given a refund and just told to be "more careful next time". The support guy also told me that he made a similar mistake when he was paying with it.

On the other hand, the fact that you can't set a hard stop on charges is terrible.

You kinda can. Use quotas and limit scaling.

Good advice to limit pricing. I use all my ressources (Kubernetes, Cloud SQL, Storage, CDN, LB, DNS) without auto scaling active.

Using Google Cloud I've experienced several outages and service disruptions over the years. I'd guess something like 1-2 a year.

There was one as recently as last week: https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/46bP9UWxaLXHyCUQdj...

I was wondering why my downloads from Google Cloud Storage were not working. Then I checked the status dashboard and it made sense. Further, the failed download in Google Cloud broke Chrome, because Chrome seemed to expect something to download for every time I had clicked (the little notification number went up), but never actually added anything to the Downloads page. Chrome wasn't able to download anything until I restarted it, which was another unexpected bug. I'm not sure why there wasn't graceful error failure at some point of this process.

Anyway, usually these outages are fixed quite quickly, but they do happen.

I know this is rather pedantic, but that's not a periodic table and using the term outside the actual meaning in Chemistry/Physics is quite annoying. The arrangement in the real periodic table is not arbitrary at all, it is stricly according to physical principles. I don't think I've ever seen a "periodic table for [X]" that has any kind of similar principles in organization.

In category theory, there's the periodic table of n-categories: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/periodic+table

Agreed - I feel like there is scope for similar categorisation here, e.g that things that work together should be somehow adjacent. I am not sure what the layout here should be - perhaps 2 dimensions is not enough

It seems that this is mainly sorted by popularity/importance, with the most popular/import things at the top left.

Agreed

Really it would be nice to have a comparison diagram or a crib sheet for all Cloud services

https://azurecharts.com/overview is sort of similar for Azure.

More readable than this GCP one that is for sure!

Ugh render performance is pretty bad on Safari on a MBP 2019. The tiles seem to be rendered async instead of in just one go. My machine should be capable of rendering ~500 coloured boxes without any delay. What a terrible UX.

Works fine here on a MBP, but in chrome & firefox.

Suggest you avoid safari - it is the new Internet Explorer in terms of feature support (i.e. lagging way behind everything else), so they're probably having to use a non-native polyfill to support something basic that modern browser support but which safari does not.

Safari is better from usability point of view, though: it's faster, uses much less power, Reader View and translation are cool, as is sync with iOS. And you don't need to worry it's spying on you.

GCP in general is horrendous on anything but Chrome. So this chart is on par with it :)

I use safari and working with GCP every day. I didn't notice anything but freezing loading indicator.

you'll have the same experience with Chrome on this page

If you are on mobile you are not seeing the "periodic table", just a list of products.

See this screenshot for the table:

https://imgur.com/a/1JX29OL

I have tried to make this kind of periodic table design work on mobile with scroll-snap (swipe sideways like on your phone's home screen). The mobile UX is just not good enough compared to a simple scrolling list.

How is this not just an ad?

This is just an ad, from a Developer Advocate at Google

The landing page is a spyware honey pot for cloud ads. Try it in Chrome and then visit a site with Adsense. I got AWS ads.

When you see it as a warning sign instead.

This is so cool. If AWS built one for it's service, the table would probably be a lot bigger.

List obsolete[1] in 3... 2...

[1] https://killedbygoogle.com/

There are zero GCP services decommissioned, only a few deprecated ones ( e.g. Firestore, for which there's a compatibility layer available in it's replacement).

In general, Google don't kill services you pay for. Google Play Music and Firestore were migrated over to newer services, with varying success ( personally I'm happy with YouTube Music, but some people missed some features).

https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/gur4lc/zync_render_wil... (Shutdown email lists it as "Google Cloud Zync Render", so definitely seems like part of GCP to me)

Not sure if this one was technically part of GCP: https://web.archive.org/web/20210701153646/https://chatbase....

Seems like they'll shut down more peripheral / niche GCP services. TBF, relying on non-core services from any cloud provider is asking for trouble, IMO...

AWS don't kill anything. Deprecated services like DocumentDB and first gen EC2 instances still function, you just can't create new ones.

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/ec2-classic-is-retiring-her...

>Google don't kill services you pay for

Yea kind of disagree with that. Feel kind of sorry for those who paid for google stadia, google glass or google onhub....

Stadia isn't dead, it's alive and well ( i use it, there are new additions in February, new promos and the games i already have run). Apparently there are also plans for the future, but we'll see about that.

OnHub:

> In December 2021, Google announced that OnHub routers would no longer receive any software or security updates. After December 19, 2022, other features would be disabled like updating the Wi-Fi network settings, adding additional Wi-Fi devices, running speed tests, or using Google Assistant.

That's a decent timeline and after that the devices will still function albeit in a very limited way.

Google Glass was never out of beta, was it?

Stadia has been deprioritised. It may hobble on, but it's no GamePass, Steam or Geforce Now. Heck at least with geforce now all the games still exist in my steam lib.

Issues aren't going to be prioritised, it's not gonna be a tier 1 platform and Google isn't exactly inspiring confidence in the future of the platform.

I am glad I got the stadia pro controller for free and never bought anything from there.

>That's a decent timeline and after that the devices will still function albeit in a very limited way.

5 years for a router? You are prevented from updating the Wifi network settings or adding additional Wifi devices. That is pretty damn basics, and pretty terrible support for a router.

Overall EOL support seems pretty damn terrible if you ask me. At least in comparison to say Microsoft, Apple, Valve, Nvidia or Amazon.

>Google Glass was never out of beta, was it?

It's been out of beta for a while. The Enterprise Edition 2 came out in 2019. The last system image update is dated 10 months ago.

Google has also deprecated several useful features from AppEngine.

None of those were GCP services.

Wow, I just spent half an hour reading all of those. Thanks.

What is it supposed to be? Deprecation bingo?

"This site uses cookies to analyze traffic and for ads measurement purposes. OK"

Not even an opt-out available ... I guess I'm gonna see alot of ads for Google Cloud now.

Edit: Sure can do! Fired up Chrome (without uBlock) visited the site. Searched for "hot dog pizza" on Google. Visited first link and got a Adsense ad for AWS. What madness it is having to put up with these illegal shenanigans from Google.

Google is shit.

Kagi is about to go public with their search engine and it blows Google out of the water completely. I've been using it for a few weeks as my default search and its awesome.

Having a simple search engine who's purpose is to answer querries like "What is Lady Gaga's bra size" is fine from a ethical and legal standpoint. It is the ever present spying I distaste.

Now Google probably have me tagged as a HN user thanks to their landing page getting a visitor spike from HN.

Even if I hadn't visit the site in Chrome to check the spying effects they surely pair me with other HN readers who use Chrome.

Note that most of those elements are artificially created in the lab and have a very short half-life.

Any specific examples of services discontinued by Google *Cloud*?

I think the main risk is that Google gives up on GCP overall, since it’s never been profitable and is still a long way from getting there.

And extremely dangerous (not to mention, expensive) if not handled with proper care

Why is Firebase Remote Config a tile? The whole area can just be one tile - Firebase. Seems artificially inflated.

https://firebase.google.com/docs/remote-config/?utm_source=e...

Isn't Firebase its own suite of services within the greater Google cloud offerings these days? I remember it started off as just a kind of data storage but then added a ton more things for e.g. deploying applications.

Firebase includes dozens of services including databases, testing facilities, deployment tools etc

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