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I'll add in a vote for IMAP support. I am anti-Google in almost all regards. Currently I use FastMail as my email provider, and Mail.app as my client. I pay for FastMail, and similarly I would very gladly pay for a good cross-platform mail client. I'd sign up for a yearly subscription, even!

I do recognize that IMAP is not as rich a data source as GMails API, but I'd encourage you to not feel limited by that. I don't mind using hosted email, as long as the revenue source is coming from my wallet, rather than ads.

I even had spec'd out building an OSS self-hosted server that ingested email via IMAP and then stored metadata in its own database - this had the benefit of being as rich as GMail APIs, but me as a user still getting to own my data.

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Fastmail created https://jmap.io/ as an open alternative to the GMail API.

jmap is great, but while it's an 'open alternative', afaik currently fastmail is using it, so adding support for jmap would still not make the client available to more services

It took me a few tries to move off of Gmail onto FastMail and I still miss the Gmail iPhone app. I haven't found anything I prefer.

I suspect I'm not the only one and that a good desktop + mobile app would increase the number of people migrating away from Google. I frankly never would've seen myself use a third party client while I was still on Gmail.

Exactly!

My only issue with Gmail is, that I want to move away from google. But i just love the Gmail web client & mobile app.

Imap support could finally help me having a nice, non-google email client

There is mailspring which I have been using for some time - it has a nice modern interface which imho is much better than thunderbird as well as most of the web interfaces of self hosted email. Based on electron though, so ymmv.

https://getmailspring.com/

+1 for MailSpring! It is easily the best desktop email application I have ever used!

Yep - this is what I've been using. Even Nylas Mail, which came before it

Good chatter I find here of Mailspring--I use it as well. What do y'all think of SparkMail? It's not been brought up here yet. I'm quite fond of it on my mobile device. This came to mind as I looked over Shortwave

Does mail.app notify you as quickly as the Fastmail app does?

I found mail on both iOS and Mac to be significantly slower. Made me suspect it wasn’t receiving push notifications but rather pulling them entry so often even though my settings were supposed to allow push.

> I don't mind using hosted email, as long as the revenue source is coming from my wallet, rather than ads.

Serious question: Do premium Gmail accounts (using your own domain) serve ads and mine your data?

Noted!

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