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This is not the fall of Roam. It is just the usual cycle of note taking apps. There was Evernote before, and there was probably even others before. And the current trending app is Notion, which will fall at one point too.

The particularity of Roam, is that it was designed for developers, product managers and execs in the tech industry. So its market is pretty small

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I've been using Evernote for years and it's great. Everything is in notebooks/subnotebooks AND tags. Their search is great. I mostly store technical how-to's and notes on books I'm reading and subjects I'm learning. Their UI is great and a joy to browse the notes... I did try Roam and I get the promise of bi-directional Nirvana but so far just for productivity and getting stuff done.. Evernote is just fine... shrug

Same here. It is slow though, since v10, but improving.

We use notion and when I read this review, the irony is that its weakest point is the search. Just like with most of these tools. In the case of notion, it is not the results, but the fact that search is so slow.

Otherwise, the it is is super powerful. In a few cases, too powerful and having cases when one doesn't use all of its powers.

Notion is still in this space where it does a lot of things decently, and nothing well. It is a decent text editor. It builds decent data tables. It is a decent wiki. If it did at least one of those things we’ll, it would have a lot more long term staying power, and I think the strongest contender is text editing.

Notion will fall as a note taking app, but probably survive as an enteprise wiki. The search which is a big issue for now, will get improved, they just move slowly.

(I work on Notion, but not on search)

For what it's worth, we've cut p50, p90, p95 search latencies in half compared to December. There are more improvements in reliability and accuracy coming soon too.

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