He Donated His Kidney and Received a $13,064 Bill in Return
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At what point do Americans decide to get along well enough to force action on this?
Maybe when enough of us have been harmed? Might be what it takes.
Frankly, I would not expect or be willing to pay anything for a sacrifice of that kind.
Asking for the money? Morbid, and another thing I would bot be capable of doing.
When the cost to the ruling oligarchy of not providing it becomes too high to bear.
Not only is the cost not high enough, there's little incentive for them to not squeeze a little harder.
We're extended an olive branch.
But then again, US media are experts at manufacturing consent, so I doubt we'll even get that.
There is no real push for UBI. It's a pipe dream dangled in front of us by oligarchs who are trying to feed hunger for change.
It'd be nice if it happened but realistically if it grew into a realm of political possibility the same institutions touting it now as "some cool thing to do in the far future maybe" would furiously backtrack.
The deeply embedded protestant work ethic and inflation fears would both be stoked to kill it dead.
The more harm is done, the less likely that people will support a public option. After paying ruinous bills, they would resent now paying increased taxes for “other peoples’ bills”. Why should I help others when no one was around to help me when I needed it? The more polarised society gets, the less likely that any person feels they should help “freeloaders” in that society. This is a bit handwavey, but people support a large public safety net in societies that where many have already benefited from that safety net and the society is somewhat homogenous.
(I live in a society with socialised healthcare, so this doesn’t apply to me. I don’t espouse these views personally.)
I don't think that is the case most of the time. If anything, suffering makes people more likely to be sympathetic. For instance: people with low incomes, and those without private healthcare are more likely to support socialized healthcare in the United States.[1] These are the people most likely to have been stuck with ruinous healthcare bills.
[1] PDF Warning : https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100752...
This situation didnt come about as a result of democracy. This $13,000 bill is a physical manifestation of where democracy and American parasitic oligarchy clash.
A commenter below talked about cost. That's the answer. It has to cost more to keep it this way. Then it will change.
The NHS in 2019 cost around £2000 a head (£115b for 56 million people in England)
That would be a budget of £700b, or $950b, in the US to cover 350m people.
Medicare and Medicaid cost $1400b in 2019 combined, 50% more than needed to fund the NHS.
Funny how when I encounter (mostly upper middle class) Europeans that have been to the US almost all of them mention being blown away by our high quality of life.
But what about our “poor”? The US has significant social safety nets which provide free housing, food, healthcare, cell phones, internet, etc.
Given our non homogenous population, percentage of non-productive people, and diverse, expansive geography I would say our system is doing one hell of a good job for our citizens.
But yea, sure. Keep pushing the cool kid woke narrative of: “America poor, America bad”.
Sure, the average American drives a bigger car and lives in a bigger house than the average European, but I believe that's more a function of geography and population density than indicative of quality of life. In my personal experience when visiting the US, I'm more blown away by the apparent rampant homelessness problem in big cities, the inhosipitablesness of roads for anything but a car, parts of big cities being practical ghettos. When I travel the world, I hardly ever meet any Americans except for the old and retired that are finally able to travel the world, most likely resulting from a generally anti lesuire work culture.
Sure, there are many great things about the US and if you're part of the middle class, your reletively wealthy, I wouldn't equate that with quality of life though
I really don’t see how you can compare the incredible success of that system to some homogenous euro country with 5% or the population of the US who considers bike lanes to be some great achievement for mankind.
More homeless? Maybe. But it isn’t due to lack of effort on our part. The incredibly generous social safety nets exist. We can’t force people to take advantage of that.
Remember that we’re not just trying to get one or two cultures to live together productively. We are successfully organizing all the cultures under one system.
Feel free to point out the gaps, I would expect no less. We will just keep on achieving and building the future. Doing it all while also paying for the military power that keeps the western world safe.
Compared to US cities, European countries feel old. Dead. Antique relics occupied by museum keepers who’s pastime is pontificating about “social justice”. Prioritizing morality only so they can maintain some small feeling of superiority because the rest of the world has left them behind.
We aren't able to break through the oligopoly that has a hold on our democracy.
Its also seen in gun laws
A can of beans costs less than $1. That's because people actually pay for that can of beans with their own money. If they didn't care about the cost, soon everyone will look for the highest quality beans out there, and there won't be any competition on price. Do you think the price of beans will go up or down?
A few years ago I had the opportunity (?) to visit the Emergency Room both in the US and in the UK within a week of each other. I did not have to pay a dime in the UK, but did I have to wait? Hours and hours and hours. I have to admit that the equipment seemed to be as high quality as in the US, but the understaffing was nothing else than remarkable.
On the other hand, just a few weeks before the Covid started in the US, I had to take my son to the ER with some respiratory thing called "croup" or parainfluenza. They gave him a syrup (some steroid-based medicine, I think), and he was good as new in a matter of minutes. But the bill was $2000.
Which one do I prefer? Neither. But boy, would I like to have a system like in Singapore ...
It’s currently US$2800 a year per person, however to quote
, the health-care system is contending with increased stress, as reflected in so-called pain points that have led to public concern, including shortages in acute hospital beds and intermediate and long-term care (ILTC) services, and high out-of-pocket payments. The main drivers of these challenges are the rising prevalence of non-communicable diseases and rapid population ageing, limitations in the delivery and organisation of primary care and ILTC, and financial incentives that might inadvertently impede care integration.
Basically the low costs driven by a young population are coming to an end
How did it come about?
Previously, industry wasn't too worried about quality and shops routinely disrespected customers.
Together, these two policies made life a lot better for consumers and industry too.
One company that was trying to make computers in the 80s had to test each component (resistors, capacitors, etc) and reclassify them such was the sorry state of Brazilian industry.