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I am 31 and got a heart attack caused by a blood clot last year. Had to undergo double bypass surgery. This happened two months after my second shot so every doctor dismissed the fact of it being related to the vaccine.

I was fit and healthy, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs, and exercising regularly with no family history.

I never had symptoms but maybe at some point I caught covid without knowing despite going out very rarely and always observing precautions.

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My brother passed away at 35 from an undiagnosed heart condition. He was in incredible physical shape and had run a half-marathon a few weeks earlier. He had never smoked, he drank moderately and he was a vegetarian. He had no history of any kind of heart problems (or any serious medical problems, in fact), but one day he felt dizzy and had trouble staying upright, so he took a sick day from work, took a nap and never woke up. This was in 2017.

It's certainly rare, but young fit people do have heart problems. You can't conclude that this had anything to do with the vaccine, this is not how science works. Certainly the long-term health effects of the vaccines should be studied, but bandying about these kinds of anecdotes is dangerous: it's the same kind of thing that has (wrongly!) convinced so many people that vaccines cause autism.

By the way, this is not to minimize what you went through, I cannot imagine how scary or painful it must've been. I hope you will have a strong path to recovery, and I wish you all the best.

That's terrible, I hope you're recovering to the best possible. Do you happen to know what was your blood pressure prior to the heart attack, and/or your apob level? At least you should have it checked now (I assume that's what have been prescribe by your doctors). It is my understanding that it is more statistically sound to point the cause of a heart attack at your age to genetic/epigenetic factors instead of a potential coronavirus infection with no symptoms.

"It is my understanding that it is more statistically sound to point the cause of a heart attack at your age to genetic/epigenetic factors instead of a potential coronavirus infection with no symptoms."

He's saying that he has an effect 2 months after the vaccine. Is that not also worthy of consideration, or do you include it as an epigenetic factor?

Consider the billions of shots being taken. Consider the time frame of 2 months. Consider the fact that it was the second shot. Meaning it could have happened within 2 months of the first shot, and then there's a 4 month window of consideration.

What do you think is the prevalence of something happening to someone in a pool of, let's say, 4 billion people in 4 months.

I'm sure 2 separate people had a potted plant land on their head. Is it worth considering its relation to the vaccine?

I'm not saying it can't be related to vaccines, but as an anecdote it's useless until it's shown in statistics, or proven causality by his doctors.

Sorry I should point out I had pains even before the first dose but every doctor or specialist I consulted thought they were muscular pains (right chest and shoulder area). So it's likely a vaccine is not the cause but there are so many factors and cofactors to consider it's very hard to make a diagnosis. Other blood tests in March will hopefully clear some of this out --

> or do you include it as an epigenetic factor?

Well, in my mind `epigenetic = biological age * food intake`, where `food intake` is 'is he eating a consistent healthy diet, given that a typical person not eating healthy will surely says that she's eating healthy'. It's (unfortunately) enough to be >30yo, having bad genes around cholesterol handling pathways and eating a standard american diet (even without significant overweight) to be in the danger zone in terms of cardiovascular risks.

ApoB in the golden (and recent) blood test here. OP: given that you have experienced chest pains, and if it's not the case already, go have your ApoB checked and ask for statins if needed: your 60yo you will thank you.

And, in my own and non-important opinion: don't waste your time even thinking about potential link between your condition and covid/vaccine, this is a path that leads nowhere in terms of prevention of futures attacks.

Source: https://peterattiamd.com/measuring-cardiovascular-disease-ri...

My cholesterol level are OK and I am Italian, so I surely don't follow an average American diet xD My gf and I love cooking and baking and all our food is freshly, with plenty of fruit and veggies, low salt in favour of spices, low sugar and plant based alternatives for butter and such :)

What's apob?

What Is the Apolipoprotein B-100 (ApoB) Test?: https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/what-is-apolipo...

Thank you, I recovered well and am now able to walk more than one hour each day. I don't know what my pressure was prior to heart attack but now it's kept on the lower side by medications (115/60)

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