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Anything can be construed to be a safety issue. Spotify has no responsibility. It’s a dumb pipe and people can make up their own mind as to what to do with information they receive from content creators. If you think exchanging information is dangerous to the point that it requires censorship, then you’re arguing for authoritarianism and tyranny.

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> It’s a dumb pipe

A dumb pipe doesn't pay to host exclusive content.

Joe Rogan is Spotify's business partner, and his reputation will, accordingly, have impact on Spotify's reputation.

Spotify pays for exclusivity. They are not a “dump” pipe you nitwit.

And this is literally Neil Young expressing his first amendment rights in our capitalist market system based on voluntary exchange.

Go read Wealth of Nations, the Constitution, the treaty of Westphalia, the Magna Carta, some Hayek, some Friedman, and an intro to civics and economics lot.

You have absolutely no idea how our system of laws, economy, or government works.

There is absolutely no need for name-calling.

To me, Spotify is a dumb pipe connecting listeners to content they want to hear. I use the phrase “dumb pipe” because the users don’t care about much of their features beyond that aspect (and there really aren’t many features). The libraries of alternative services also mostly overlap. Additionally, marginal attempts at exclusivity or editorialized content don’t change what they materially are, just like a telecom utility adding content businesses (like Verizon and Oath) doesn’t get to escape their status as a common carrier utility service.

I also didn’t ask that Neil Young be denied his first amendment rights, so you’re attacking a straw man. But I did point out that he is abusing his power (of celebrity) to try and silence political adversaries. Censorship is censorship. It doesn’t matter if it is brought on by the government or individuals with power or masses with collective power.

As for your patronizing tone telling me what to read - I’ve actually read some of those things you listed, for what it’s worth.

Signed, a nitwit.

Would you please stop perpetuating flamewars on HN? You've been doing it a lot lately—enough that I'm starting to wince when I see your username. It's not what this site is for, and it evokes worse from others, and you're responsible for provoking that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: I took a closer look and saw that you've clearly been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not allowed here, regardless of what you're battling for or against—it's in fact the worst thing you can contribute to destroying this place for its intended purpose. Here are links to many past explanations:

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Since we've asked you many times to use HN as intended and you've continued not to, I've banned the account.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Resorting to ad hominem attacks on HN? Given the wealth of reading you signal you've done, you'd do well to start with the Hacker News Guidelines before commenting further [1]

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You can't post personal attacks like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that do this, so please don't do it again.

Perhaps you don't feel you owe people you disagree with better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it—much better.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Apologies. Won't happen again. Appreciate the reasonable moderation here.

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