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Co-Founder of tines here, thanks for all of very valid feedback, there’s loads to think about! I’ll respond to a bunch of the comments individually but the one thing I’d say is try it - it’s way more powerful and flexible than any of the products listed here, although it’s marketed as no-code it’s built by engineers for engineers, with tonnes of enterprise features (Retry on status, connecting to external password vaults, global functions and resources, MTLS, forms, free SSO, curl converter etc.)

As mandatum says above “The UX of Tines beats the pants off ALL of their competitors.” And we can talk about price.

Happy to answer any questions folks have too!

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Can you expand on your approach to pricing? $30k/year to only automate 10 separate tasks would be a non-starter for me. As a personal tool, the community version w/ 3 free is a nice way to demo things but too few stories to bother trying to run personal projects & conveniences on it.

My interpretation of your pricing is that you're positioning it towards businesses that only have a small number automation targets, but those targets might have a high level of complexity & are repeated very often. At least that's the main market target that makes sense to me given the pricing model.

"although it’s marketed as no-code it’s built by engineers for engineers"

Not sure I understand the product positioning

As a product manager in this space, this stood out to me too. If I had to speculate:

- “Low code” is the current shiny thing

- These products are not sold to engineers, they’re sold to management types

- Management will only consider bringing in low code tools, because they believe this will save money on devs in the long run

- But that’s never how things play out, and engineers get involved anyway

So by making a “low code tool for engineers”, it seems they’re acknowledging the reality of the low code space and making sure the person who ultimately has to maintain this has the tools to make them successful while doing so…while also acknowledging the reality of selling integration/automation tools in 2022.

I could be way off here, but this is the only way that positioning makes much sense.

I guess it's meant to be low-code but as engineers they understand you can't low-code your way out of everything so escape hatches or advanced settings are provided for when "low code" isn't enough.

Does Conor O'Neill work for Tines? I couldn't figure out if this was an unpaid customer testimonial or just normal content marketing?

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