It's not that bad. I am lead on a large Angular 13 project and we love it, easy to work with, build, deploy. We have literally no issues at the moment. .Net 6 C# APIs on the back-end, Oracle database. It just works.
Take everything with a grain of salt.
Eg: Google Cloud console downloads like 20MB of resources.
Maybe the DX is good, but from an end user perspective, Angular is far from good.
That must be a fairly large application. Consider they are pushing it internally, I have no idea how optimized that is.
When you consider this is cached, that means you only have to do that once until an update. Similar to any other software.
Look at what Electron apps do in terms of constant updates. This is similar, but it's a web page.
And the problem is not only the bytes loaded but how clunky and slow it is in general.
The Electron argument doesn't make any sense as it includes two runtimes ffs.
That's literally the biggest (publicly known) Angular app in existence, and the fact that it's slow doesn't have anything to do with Angular. E.g. FWD:Everyone pages load in well under half a second:
https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/K3KKGbMyQbaCGDc-izuaow/venmo-f...
At this point the main things preventing it from being faster are the TTFB from CloudFront, and the fact that Bootstrap is used as a dependency.
I just don't get the concept of people being like, I'm going to start a project that's likely going to take the ten years to become successful, but I'm not willing to spend the twenty hours to read the documentation so that it will be successful.
Last I asked, it was still a tire fire, even after more than a dozen versions and after a fully mature previous framework that was replaced :-(
Basically, they now (as of Angular 12) force you to build a difference version of your app for each language you support, and either serve them up at different URLs or use cookies to serve up the right version to each user. The technical reasons make sense...your translations occur at build-time, rather than at run-time, but it's a pretty drastic change that occurred out of nowhere.
Not a fan.
I use ttag (https://ttag.js.org) with React and like it. I don’t see any reason you couldn’t use it (or another library) with Angular.